wargaming in 80's- Belize

[Rick]

Well, Marigold, I've had my wrist slapped a few times over posts where someone didn't get my, albeit sometimes acerbic, sense of humour. I guess all of us have to be careful about what we say and try to bear in mind that humour sometimes doesn't travel awfully well - what you might consider a joke, another might view as a personal attack. Take responsibility, Carlos, and maybe dial it back a little?

[Westfalia Chris]

Well, Marigold, I've had my wrist slapped a few times over posts where someone didn't get my, albeit sometimes acerbic, sense of humour. I guess all of us have to be careful about what we say and try to bear in mind that humour sometimes doesn't travel awfully well - what you might consider a joke, another might view as a personal attack. Take responsibility, Carlos, and maybe dial it back a little?

Sensible words, those, although I would like for all involved to abide by them.

[HerbertTarkel]

Cool! Conflict with Norway might be a bit of a stretch mind you. NATO partner an all.

If you want another distraction, one that was actually quite a real prospect around this time then have a look the situation in Belize. The absence of a  quick reaction force from the RN, with most of its ships tied up in the Taskforce, would have been an enormous complication for the defence of Belize. Guatemala uses the cover of the Argentine invasion of the Falklands to muster OAS suport for its own invasion of Belize. The Guatemalan army is an interesting force in this period, with some exotic kit.

This is a valid argument for the era: the British forces are distracted by the Argies in Falklands, and have dwindling resources(thanks to Mags) - they literally had to pull a carrier out of decommission to send it - and as a result, the influence on British Honduras (Belize) was … thin.

Can’t argue that too many hotspots are able to be extinguished at once.

[mendoza]

We play this weekend, but we use tokens  no minis 
rules? Airwarc21...we LOVE it

https://rockenmundolibre.blogspot.com/2025/09/protegiendo-la-frontera.html?m=1

[Rick]

"Fox two, now break right, break right!"

I have those rules as well and very good they are too! It does help if you have played something similar before - a friend of mine took them to a wargames club where they'd only played fantasy and science fiction games before, the simulated carnage was unspeakable.

[Jemima Fawr]

"Fox two, now break right, break right!"

I have those rules as well and very good they are too! It does help if you have played something similar before - a friend of mine took them to a wargames club where they'd only played fantasy and science fiction games before, the simulated carnage was unspeakable.

Experience is no guarantor of competence... I remember with shame the utter disaster we had playing the SHADO Interceptors in a participation game at Salute... I managed to crash into my mate and destroy myself on turn 1, while my mates went on to destroy our own orbital defence platform, shoot each other down and overshoot the target and burn up in the atmosphere without even damaging a single UFO.  The neighbouring ground defence game was then overwhelmed by an unstoppable wave of landing aliens...

The umpire laughed and said "I hope you guys never join the RAF...  What do you do, anyway?"

"mumble... pilot, navigator, air electronics operator & fighter controller... mumble..." 

[HerbertTarkel]

Experience is no guarantor of competence... I remember with shame the utter disaster we had playing the SHADO Interceptors in a participation game at Salute... I managed to crash into my mate and destroy myself on turn 1, while my mates went on to destroy our own orbital defence platform, shoot each other down and overshoot the target and burn up in the atmosphere without even damaging a single UFO.  The neighbouring ground defence game was then overwhelmed by an unstoppable wave of landing aliens...

The umpire laughed and said "I hope you guys never join the RAF...  What do you do, anyway?"

"mumble... pilot, navigator, air electronics operator & fighter controller... mumble..." 

Can concur: we used micro armour on sand tables when I served, and … nothing was ever the same on a sand table vs in the field. Somehow, having god-like overhead view was better than trying to determine why your patrol wasn’t where it was supposed to be …

[carlos marighela]

Map, compass, paces. Map, compass, paces, reading the terrain…….

Map, compass, paces, reading the terrain and ensuring that your SNCO is checking your nav in an unobtrusive, yet firm manner. 

Nice AAR. Pretty much what I would expect of a Harrier vs A-37 fight. Those A-37s replaced Mustangs only a few years earlier. Oddly enough, I reckon that as targets go the Mustangs might have been a bit trickier to shoot down.

I look forward to seeing the Guatemalan armour roll across the border.

[carlos marighela]