ANDOR Season 2 (Possible Spoilers)

[Ninefingers]

I liked The Acolyte

[HerbertTarkel]

I liked The Acolyte

I did, too! It showed the Jedi to be a little darker and not so angelic. I liked that.

[mcfonz]

I'm more than willing to give the series a go, but some of the series have been so weak - I liked Ahsoka but it was a weak plot and thin - Filoni had about enough material for, maybe, 2-3 episodes (if it had been as tightly scripted and fast-paced as Kenobi) but he stretched it thinly across 8 episodes. It was beautifully shot and the background was amazing but there wasn't enough plot to sustain it. And that is probably the future of Star Wars under Filoni - grandiose tv multiple-series arc's that fail after just one series because they're so weak. Kenobi should have been the template, not the exception - a fast-paced, tightly scripted mini-series that told a complete, longer-length story from beginning to end, then do it again with a different character and a different story.
Apologies for the rant.
I think I'll be getting a cast model of Hera Syndulla and Ahsoka Tano at some point, to push the post back towards LAF guidelines! 

See, I liked Ahsoka, as did my partner.

They key is not seeing all starwars as aimed at the same level or audience. In a way it never has been and was always part of George Lucas' plan for it all.

The three original trilogy movies felt very different to one another. New Hope was a proper fairytale in space. It felt light, with some serious undertones, but with humour.

Empire Strikes Back was more or less a straight up war movie with much darker tones. Luke went from finding out he'd kissed his sister romantically to finding out their father was the big bad guy. All on the backdrop of the rebellion getting a pounding and no fairytale ending.

Return of the Jedi was half Empire(first part up until Endor) and part what I call curtain call with all of the main characters turning up to tag team the 'baddies' and take their bow at the end, even those who'd died.

The prequels were aimed at a much younger audience. Ashoka and Mandalorian are the same in target audience really.

[jhonpog]

Is it just me or does ANDOR have West End Games star wars in it's DNA?

I played the rpg and the miniatures game way back when and the TV series references quite alot of out the source material including:

The ISB - a WEG creation (I think)
The Tarkin massacre - also in the one of the source books
Fest - Maarva in season 1 mentions this system. That's defo a WEG creation
Imperial army troopers - WEG took the troopers in the AT STs in ROTJ and ran with it. 

I'm sure there are more but it's testimony to those creators in how well they captured the military sci-fi aspects of SW and 20+ years later that work gets a new lease on life.  Nice!

Can anyone think of any more?

[Rick]

I liked Ahsoka as well BUT it could have been so much better - it was poorly done and saying that the reason it was slow, meandering, shallow and lacked any character development is that it was aimed at a younger target audience is a very bad excuse. SW Ep IV-VI was, basically, a coming of age series - Luke developing from a naive apprentice to a seasoned jedi, a journey of self-discovery. And, like all of Star Wars, you have the knights and the cowboys - Lucas' genius was to intertwine the classic cowboy film with the mythic knightly quest in a brilliant kind of fusion.

[Rick]

Is it just me or does ANDOR have West End Games star wars in it's DNA?

I played the rpg and the miniatures game way back when and the TV series references quite alot of out the source material including:

The ISB - a WEG creation (I think)
The Tarkin massacre - also in the one of the source books
Fest - Maarva in season 1 mentions this system. That's defo a WEG creation
Imperial army troopers - WEG took the troopers in the AT STs in ROTJ and ran with it. 

I'm sure there are more but it's testimony to those creators in how well they captured the military sci-fi aspects of SW and 20+ years later that work gets a new lease on life.  Nice!

Can anyone think of any more?

Actually some of these appeared in stories before WEG then developed them in sourcebooks and scenarios. Certainly the Ghorman massacre appeared in print before it appeared in any WEG publication. WEG were fantastic in trawling through all of the stories and novels then developing those threads into the comprehensive sourcebooks that became a whole new chapter of Star Wars lore.

[Grimmnar]

Shame Andor is run it's course after season 2 ends.

Grimm

[mcfonz]

Shame Andor is run it's course after season 2 ends.

Grimm

I think Andor will be a really good case in point about having a beginning and an end for a serialised content. Many series go on for too long and end up with really odd episodes (musicalised anyone?). I see this more as a serialised movie. There was far too much content to fit into one or two movies, especially with season one as well.

Arguably they could have made two movies with just season two, but this format suits the story telling far better.

That said, what it has highlighted is that there is plenty of space to explore at either bookend of the timeline with Mandalorian/Ashoka at the other.

[zemjw]

I got serious Elf vibes at the start of the wedding scene, only to be rudely interrupted by a Buck Rogers flashback during the formal dance



I feel they missed a Twiki vs R2D2 dance-off opportunity there...

Not sure about the rave - I was starting to feel sympathy to the Empire by the end of it

[HerbertTarkel]

I got serious Elf vibes at the start of the wedding scene, only to be rudely interrupted by a Buck Rogers flashback during the formal dance



I feel they missed a Twiki vs R2D2 dance-off opportunity there...

Not sure about the rave - I was starting to feel sympathy to the Empire by the end of it

 

 

[HerbertTarkel]

Ep 10-11-12

So good! So, so good 

[nozza_uk]

Finally got around to watching 8 & 9 last night and 10 this morning.

Got to say that Andor is really changing the way I see Rogue One on a second watch, which exactly what a great prequel should do, just like Better Call Saul did for Breaking Bad.

[nozza_uk]

Actually some of these appeared in stories before WEG then developed them in sourcebooks and scenarios. Certainly the Ghorman massacre appeared in print before it appeared in any WEG publication. WEG were fantastic in trawling through all of the stories and novels then developing those threads into the comprehensive sourcebooks that became a whole new chapter of Star Wars lore.

On a Reddit forum, someone mentioned remembering that the first time they came across the name Ghorman was back in 1993 or 1994 when playing the original PC X-Wing game. Back in those days the copy protection required entering the correct password from the manual to play. Most of those passwords were Star Wars planets, and Ghorman wasn’t just a name, it was the setting for at least one of the game’s missions.

Apparently, the game’s strategy guide even mentioned that Bail Organa followed Mon Mothma’s lead in openly rebelling against the Empire after the Ghorman massacre. So even before the prequels, there was this was pivotal political event that showcased the Empire’s cruelty.

[Rick]

I think all of us sometimes forget just how much Star Wars lore has been built up over the years; in novels, computer games and rpg's. That's why it's great to see the later shows referencing all that lore - it gives depth and history to the Star Wars galaxy.

[anevilgiraffe]

I had a letter in SFX published once pointing out that one of the planets on the official galactic map was called Neelgaimon (or something similarly mispelt but pronounced the same)... bet that's being retconned now... (EDIT ah it's Legends so yep)