Barons' War 2nd edition

[Dice Roller]

Right, I've just checked.
The copy of Barons War I have is tagged v2.1.
Which I got from Footsore (file is dated Feb 2023, so that's how old it is).
So is the Footsore 'second edition' the latest second edition that was included in the new box set, or just the v2.1 (or 2.2., or 2.?) that I have? My instincts are telling me the latter.

[Ivan S]

The book at the Footsore is in fact second print of the first edition rulebook. Second edition book have the same cover as the new starter box and also labeled "The Barons War Second Edition" not just "The Barons War". I believe the only way (for now, until they release the book separately) you can get a new book is within the starter set which is still on the pre-order for now (WA says they start shipping on April 25, Footsore states it's not earlier than April 28th).

[Dice Roller]

I've just looked on the Footsore website.
The PDF they are selling is clearly marked v2.1, NOT 'second edition' (contrary to what someone upthread said).

[Mikai]

 Another misstake, apologies. I have assumed that they took down the possibility to order the old version when the new one is coming

[Dice Roller]

I have assumed that they took down the possibility to order the old version when the new one is coming

Yes, it does seem a bit odd, eh?
I get that a printed version would tie up a lot of money and so they may want a return on the investment they've made on the box set first.
But a PDF!? That could easily be made available.
Especially since they are making announcements about a second edition, which you can't actually buy on its own without having to fork out £95 on miniatures and terrain you don't actually need since you have loads already, but still leave the patchy first edition for sale.
I hope that doesn't create ill will and blow up in their faces. Whoever is in the marketing department is clearly also working a second part time job or this is their first job in marketing. I hope they know what they are doing.

[Dice Roller]

Just seen this - what the changes have been made:


Sounds like there's more changes that alluded to in the original video posted.
Like all these things, some changes are better than others, but none I'd go to war over.
Makes it even more frustrating that it's not being made available outside the box set.

[RedRowan]

Not had a chance to watch the video yet but Andy has also posted an outline of the changes on his blog too.

https://www.andyhobday.com/blog/what-s-new-in-the-barons-war-second-edition

Steve

[tomrommel1]

I just got stuck into Barons war and got the second edition at Salute. So can't compare them with the old version.
But the first read through lets me think that you can have nice games with a number of figures I would be able to paint .

[Digits]

That’s my take on it…nothing too taxing! Lol

[Snackelwolf]

He just posted on facebook that they are making an announcement about the individual 2nd edition rule book (rather than the full box set) tomorrow.

[Dice Roller]

That's great to know.
I'm not on Facebook myself so if someone could post here what was said then I for one would be really grateful.

[Barking Monkey]

As far as I can tell just from watching battle reports on YT, nobody was using the 'entirely inside the bubble' interpretation of coherency anyway.

I kinda hate that the 10 crit is going away.  I also hate that 'overcharge' and 'warhorse' are going away (not mentioned in the video but it's in the "what's changing" list posted by Hobday.)  They were the biggest part of the unique things that raised BW above a generic medieval ruleset by providing period flavor.

The shooting rules (mostly) sound like an improvement. 

Since "shock" is being removed I certainly hope they are giving mounted lances a compensating benefit (and not just the 'extra reach' thing foot spears are getting, which is pretty pointless for mounted troops with their generally smaller unit sizes.)

[Cholmondely Percival IV]

The wait is over! Speculation may cease! Wargames Atlantic have just revealed a variety of options for the second edition rules and a deluxe starter set, all available immediately as far as I can determine:

https://wargamesatlantic.com/search?q=barons+war+rulebook&_pos=5&_psq=Barons+&_ss=e&_v=1.0

[RedRowan]

It seems the physical copy of the rulebook is a pre-order with the book shipping on May 30th. The PDF is available immediately though so looking forward to reading through that over the weekend.

Steve

[Dice Roller]

Purchased!