Which rules for late 17th Century with 10mm figures?

[Hwiccee]

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[SJWi]

Fred. Simon Miller hopes to have a PdF of his c1670-AWI rules available by Salute next year. I stress the word "hopes".

[David Cowper]

I’m wondering how many figures to put on each base. With the Pendraken army pack I will have 60 musketeers, 30 pikemen, 30 command figures, 15 cavalry, 15 dragoons and three guns.  I guess I’ll have a few spare command figures until I expand the army. I also have to decide which theatre.

[SJWi]

David, I had the same question back in 2023 and put it out as a question on the League of Augsburg forum. The "advice" I got back was 6 infantry on a 25mm square base ( 3 bases per regiment) and 3 cavalry on a 30mm square base ( 4 bases per "regiment").  You can see the exchange if you go to "Fighting Talk" on the League of Augsburg website, and then "PIke and Shot" and then "BLB War of the 3 Kings Newbie Question"  ( ie me!) as a topic. The guy who responded embedded a link with some photos of completed armies. This is what I plan to do as I assume that they will also work for Simon Miller's upcoming rules. 

[fred]

Great looking army Hwiccee

Number of figures on a base (and size of base) are perennial questions. I went with 40mm square bases, with 12-16 figures per base - these units look good - but do take a lot of figures and a lot of  painting. I can't spot my own photos right now - but will have a search as I have a (rather old) thread on LAF with my few painted LoA units on it.

Found my thread https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=92170.60

And here's and a photo

[Hwiccee]

They look great Fred.

The rules I use have flexible basing where units can be any number of figures on any sized base as long as the unit frontages are the same. All game measurements are then in multiples of half the unit frontage.

We use a unit frontage of 120mm and I went for a single base with 24 to 3o figures on depending on unit type. Others in the group say use two bases of 60mm per unit or three bases of 40mm with various numbers of figures on.

[bigredbat]

The Pendraken 10mm figures are lovely- there was an Aughrim game at Partizan, last year or the year before, that was to die for. They had large numbers of minis on biggish bases, perhaps 12cm or more wide- looked great!

[Frostie]

I have a couple of thousand of these for the Nine Years War.  My infantry 'regiments' are about 52 strong on 3 40x40mm bases.

Only played a couple of games using Pike and Shottee rules

[fred]

They look great Fred.

The rules I use have flexible basing where units can be any number of figures on any sized base as long as the unit frontages are the same. All game measurements are then in multiples of half the unit frontage.

We use a unit frontage of 120mm and I went for a single base with 24 to 3o figures on depending on unit type. Others in the group say use two bases of 60mm per unit or three bases of 40mm with various numbers of figures on.

Thanks Hwiccee

I too have gone with 120mm frontage (3x40mm bases)

Which looks a popular choice!

I have a couple of thousand of these for the Nine Years War.  My infantry 'regiments' are about 52 strong on 3 40x40mm bases.

Only played a couple of games using Pike and Shottee rules

Sounds ace Frostie - do you have photos?

[SJWi]

I would love to invest in big units but that would involve too many figures and more importantly too much painting effort. That said great inspiration to kick-start what had become a bit of a back-burner project for me.

[fred]

Yes, big units are good - but are a lot of effort. For AWI I went with 4 figs on a 25mm base and 4-6 bases per unit - much quicker progress!

[SJWi]

Fred, at the risk of going "off topic" which rules do you use for AWI?

[fred]

We’ve played Live Free or Die a couple of times. They give a decent game - the scenarios are pretty big generally a 100 infantry bases a side- so we’ve only been able to play a couple of the smaller ones so far.

I’m not an expert on the period but they seem to give a decent feel for the era.