Neanderthal home and Weapons

[Michi]

I´d like to have that for my palaentholithic games too!

[Wirelizard]

I like that a lot, making it as a corner piece works really well.

I've got a 2nd pack of Pulp Figures Neanderthals coming shortly (Christmas money, yay) to double the size of my tribe, and I think they need someplace to hang out and defend from dinosaurs, sabre-toothed kitties, explorers and such! Lacking storage space, I think mine will be about half the width & length of yours; there's also the small matter of 1" thick styrofoam insulation apparently being impossible to find in this town...

[Michi]

I've got a 2nd pack of Pulp Figures Neanderthals coming shortly (Christmas money, yay) to double the size of my tribe, and I think they need someplace to hang out and defend from dinosaurs, sabre-toothed kitties, explorers and such!

My tribe is already 50 all female and needs some dwelling too. Time to get some male as well, I guess...

[former user]

what is "paleontholithic" ? 

a crossover for cavemen and extinct mammals? 

[Michi]

what is "paleontholithic" ? 

a crossover for cavemen and extinct mammals? 

Somebody told me that this came before neolithic, because the latter allows garments woven from herbal fibres, pottery and jewelry while the former allows only furs and basic weapons.

[former user]

well, this is my specialty now:

Wrong!

it is called Paleolithic 2 MV - ca. 10KY BC  -  jewelry, rock art, clay statuettes, woven fibres, very seldom bows or axes  - all in glacial environment like the arctic tundra

Mesolithic/Epipaleolithic (depending on where You are), with the start of the Holocene warm up until 8000-5000 BC (again depending where You are), same as before, but with forrests

Neolithic - everything afterwards until metal is used, main difference being producing subsistence, wars, permanant settlements, graveyards, palisades, general stratified hierarchical society

plesed to provide more info on request 

I was surprised about "paleontholithic", because it doesn't exist and seems to be a compound of paleontology and lithic  which are unrelated terms apart from period 

[Red Orc]

That's 'palaeolithic' (Old Stone Age). 'Palaeontology' is 'old being study' and is what is 'before' archeology.

If it uses tools and is more or less human (ie has happened in the last 2.6 million years), it's the subject of archaeology, which has (lower, middle and upper) paleolithic, mesolithic, and neolithic in Europe, more or less corresponding to Old (lower and middle palaeolithic) and New (upper paleolithic-neolithic) Stone Age in Africa.

As an archaeologist friend of mine says, 'archaeologists don't dig dinosaurs'. 'Palaeontolithic' should mean 'old-being-stony'.

Or, more or less what former user said. Only, most of the history of humanity probably wasn't played out in the freezing cold, just those bits when certain proto-people decided to leave Africa and go and live in cold bits of the world. After all, modern humans are descended from those who stayed in Africa until about 100,000 years ago, as far as we can tell. So we had 2.5 million years in the warm (all of which is Old Stone Age/lower-middle Palaeolithic).

[duhamel]

I note that the subject inspires you, gentlemen

[former user]

well, goes with the job with me, so to say 

but indeed, You don't find that period covered very often in wargaming

for which i would like to recommend a book very warmly: "War Before Civilization
by Lawrence H. Keeley"

and this HP

http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~socant/brian.htm

[duhamel]

well, goes with the job with me, so to say 

but indeed, You don't find that period covered very often in wargaming

for which i would like to recommend a book very warmly: "War Before Civilization
by Lawrence H. Keeley"

and this HP

http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~socant/brian.htm


thank you for  your book

[former user]

avec plaisir

while bein methodologically boring, it gives a good and well researched impression about warfare on stone aged level

so don't buy it, borrow it 

[Michi]

Thanks for the lesson mates! I learn something new every day.
Would it be okay to simply call it stoneage? I mean all those years before the use of bronze became fashionable?

[former user]

of course you can call it stoneage - it is a valid tag

but then how do You make a difference between neanderthal (middle paleolithic) and Aztec (late Neolithic)

??
both used mainly stonetools....

I think for wargaming we can leave it at "cavemen". Unfortunately there aren't any accurate stone age models available, which is sad.

[argsilverson]

well, this is my specialty now:

Wrong!

it is called Paleolithic 2 MV - ca. 10KY BC  -  jewelry, rock art, clay statuettes, woven fibres, very seldom bows or axes  - all in glacial environment like the arctic tundra

Mesolithic/Epipaleolithic (depending on where You are), with the start of the Holocene warm up until 8000-5000 BC (again depending where You are), same as before, but with forrests

Neolithic - everything afterwards until metal is used, main difference being producing subsistence, wars, permanant settlements, graveyards, palisades, general stratified hierarchical society

plesed to provide more info on request 

I was surprised about "paleontholithic", because it doesn't exist and seems to be a compound of paleontology and lithic  which are unrelated terms apart from period 

Well done former user!
Now come to my field:
a minor correction: the melting down of the glaciers (depending on locations)something started approx. 16.000-12.000 BC while around 8.000 - 6.000 BC was a major global warm period called young Dryas. Some of the scholars believe that this early global warming with high atmospheric CO₂ content was due to the widespread of agriculture.

We need to use the terms of  Palaeo- Neo-lithic  History or prehistory only in relevance with certain places/locations. For example it is strongly believed that Neolithic starts in Greek and possibly other mediterranean areas plus Mesopotamia around 8.000 - 7.000 BC with the change to agriculture and use of domestic animals and the formation of the early cities something between 7.000-3.500 BC .

In other places neolithic has not yet even been ended. remember the Amazonian Indian tribes who still use stone/wood/bone tools.

Another definition: Palaeontology doesnot study only Dinosaurs! There we have the mammals and lots of other beings much earlier than today. Palaeontology studies all extinct animals, plants, beings whatever. Part of it is Paleoanthropology who also studies Hominids -primitive humans.   

[Michi]

Well done former user!
Now come to my field:
a minor correction: the melting down of the glaciers (depending on locations)something started approx. 16.000-12.000 BC while around 8.000 - 6.000 BC was a major global warm period called young Dryas. Some of the scholars believe that this early global warming with high atmospheric CO₂ content was due to the widespread of agriculture.

We need to use the terms of  Palaeo- Neo-lithic  History or prehistory only in relevance with certain places/locations. For example it is strongly believed that Neolithic starts in Greek and possibly other mediterranean areas plus Mesopotamia around 8.000 - 7.000 BC with the change to agriculture and use of domestic animals and the formation of the early cities something between 7.000-3.500 BC .

In other places neolithic has not yet even been ended. remember the Amazonian Indian tribes who still use stone/wood/bone tools.

Another definition: Palaeontology doesnot study only Dinosaurs! There we have the mammals and lots of other beings much earlier than today. Palaeontology studies all extinct animals, plants, beings whatever. Part of it is Paleoanthropology who also studies Hominids -primitive humans.   

So many brilliant minds over here! This is truely a forum of extraordinary gentlemen (which includes some smart ladies as well, but this wasn´t different in the movie, was it?). It is interesting that most gamers obviously use to be specialists of some kind other than gaming too.