British in North Russia.

[Red Sveta]

 Dobry Den
 

Im looking for photographs of British troops in Northern Russia if anyone knows of any.


Thanks

[The Dalai]

There's a book The Czar's Royal Naval Squadron (I think) about Locker-Lampson and his armoured car squadron that was sent to Northern Russia and fought it's way through war and revolution to Persia.  I have a copy and there are a lot of nice photos.  I'm working away from home at the mo so can't grab it to confirm details.  If you're interested I can supply full ISBN details etc later this week.

[The Dalai]

Ah yes, that's it.  Cracking read as you say.

[Mark Plant]

When you say "Northern Russia" do you mean the Archangel and Murmansk theatres in the Civil War? If so, Locker-Lampson is a different place and time.

Or do you mean around about the St Petersburg area in 1916 and 1917?

[Red Orc]

If you do come across any pictures, please do post links here. I was after images of the British forces in the Intervention (1918-20) in Archangelsk/Murmansk, as I had a great uncle who was posted there with the Black Watch. But my research yeilded very little.

[axabrax]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/yourplaceandmine/topics/war/rnacd.shtml

Google is a wonderful thing.

[Mark Plant]

15 Squadron RNAS commanded by Oliver Locker-Lampson did fight in Northern Russia as well as seeing action in ...

I think most people consider "Northern Russia" to be the taiga zone, which starts above St Petersburg in the west (but goes further south as you go east). Locker Lampson did not go up there, and neither did the No3 Armoured Car Squadron.

Given that this is not the WWI part of the site, I have to assume the original poster is asking about the Russian Civil War, and means the Murmansk and Archangel theatre. If this is true, then material about Locker-Lampson and British armoured cars is of no use to him at all.

This isn't my area of interest, but I know the BBC have some clips on-line showing Brits leaving for the North.

[Poliorketes]

Please calm down, guys.

[former user]

OK, so locker-Lampson and his AC sq were in northern Russia, but did not participate in the RCW, right?
Although apparently having participated in the Kornilow uprising?

interesting story nevertheless and anyway good for what ifs...

Anyway, @red sveta either asked about the above or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War
specifically this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Russia_Campaign
one might guess?

and also possibly this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Campaign_in_the_Baltic_1918%E2%80%931919

as well as the british participation in this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_Liberation_War

because by status quo the baltic states would belong to "Russia"

do we have it all covered now?
 

I think there is enough info, links and pictures in the wiki articles for starters

[Mark Plant]

Generally I store links to RCW stuff, but not the Interventions so much. I thought Richard Tyson's stuff had gone, but it appears it hasn't:
http://members.fortunecity.com/behindthelines/murmansk1.htm

(There's quite a cool book about flying in the North called "The Diary of a P.B.O.". It has some photos, but again all aviation stuff.)

(BTW former user, there are sites where calling the Baltics "Northern Russia" is an easy way to start a flame war.  )

[former user]

of course Mark, and in full right, but historically they were governed regions, not even a dutchy like Poland, and regarded as such by both sides, apart from the independence movements.
And that's what historical wargaming is about, right? 

South Africans would flame anyone who plays Zulu Wars where it is part of the colony or India for instance....

@Red Sveta, is that what You wanted to know?

[Red Sveta]

Thanks for the information. I have a relative who served in the Elope force around Archangel in 1919. He was posted MIA during one battle in which the British had to retreat. In many books there a pictures of British troops but always out of the line and not in campaign uniform ect. I was wanting to see a photo of the men at the front, and it would be fantastic to see a photo of men of the Yorkshire Regiment in which he served.

[former user]

I see

the story sounds very interesting.
I remember lot of pictures of US troops, but none of british ones.

No postcard collections etc available like with the Czechs?
or maybe "Polar Bear" pictures where British can be seen too?

[Red Sveta]

There seems to be quite a bit of info on the Polar Bears who seem to think they did all the fighting, but not much on the Brits. It is a strange tale with not many photos of the British units about it seems.

[former user]

not very surprising   
I must admit that I do not have a lot of knowledge about that specific area in RCW, most that I read summarizes "sporadic fighting"