Italians in Libya

[Plynkes]

I made this into a new topic, as we had got quite far away from the original business of Empress miniatures MG teams.


Also, some more names are going into my little book. 

[Hammers]

Oh yeah...

 

*guns *_42 in the street like the good for nothing, rotten scoundrel he is*

That over and done with; when I saw that film some years ago I just registered them as Renault F17s. I now see the error of my ways but I don't feel horribly bad about it. They are *awfly* alike, are they not?

[answer_is_42]

Does this mean we can be friends?

[Plynkes]

I wonder if the nice people at Empress would consider bringing one out? They didn't take any to Spain as far as I know, but I'm (fairly) sure they were used in Ethiopia.

[Hammers]

It's a fun flick. The mocked up Fiat 3000 tanks are cleverly done.

How do you see they are mockups?

[answer_is_42]

How do you see they are mockups?

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/italy/tanks-light/fiat-3000.asp
Note the length of the chassis, and I think the turret and tracks are different too. At least, this is my impression.

I've always thought the FT-17, and all it's offshoots, were the coolest tanks ever...

[Plynkes]

They didn't get the shape of the hull quite right. The body is way too tall.





Still pretty good job, though. At least they tried, unlike many of the WWII movies around.

[answer_is_42]

Still pretty good job, though. At least they tried, unlike many of the WWII movies around.

Yes indeed. I was watching A Bridge too Far the other day, which is virtually perfect in regards of equipment etc except for the German Panzers, which are not quite right...

Image nicked off someone on the web.

This is probably waay off topic. Sorry.

[carlos marighela]

I read somewhere that the ones in the film are basically plywood bodies built onto a Caterpillar bulldozer, no they aren't perfect but they certainly look the part, at least as well as any T-34 masquerading as a Tiger, so beloved of WW2 films.

Nobody does a Fiat 3000 in 28mm, 1/56, 1/60, 1/48 whatever. Mr Plynkes has pointed out that plastic versions exist in1/35 and I seem to recall that there is a 1/72 version in resin. If you want to convert one from a Renault FT-17  for 28mm, 15mm or some other odd scale then look for one with a resin body. The principal visual difference aside from armament is a slightly flatter shape to the rear deck and some minor differences in exhaust placement and running gear. All versions had the riveted flat sided hull. There was an update done in the early thirties with a new gun and some of those soldiered on in Sicily during WW2. There's a good photo essay on the beast on the Tanks! website

[Hammers]

Yes indeed. I was watching A Bridge too Far the other day, which is virtually perfect in regards of equipment etc except for the German Panzers, which are not quite right...

Image nicked off someone on the web.

This is probably waay off topic. Sorry.

I always detested those Patton M60 panzer substitutes in films like that. Still do. And whem M3s were used in place of Sdkfz 251s

[carlos marighela]

At least that one is a German tank, it's a Leopard.

[Plynkes]

This is probably waay off topic. Sorry.

Ah, who cares, we're among friends here. Let's talk about whatever the hell we like. Just don't grass me up to Alex, all right?  And anyway, I hear that this year off-topic is the new on-topic.

It doesn't bother me much, unless it is an already crappy film that has succeeded in putting me in a bad mood and a picky frame of mind in the first place. If the film is good, I tend not to notice, or just to smile inwardly in smug satisfaction that I have spotted something wrong (and then tell someone how clever I've been later on).

Despite White/International half tracks and Land Rovers, Ice Cold in Alex is still a great picture*.





*And at least it's a real Katy.

[Poiter50]

Threadomancy perhaps but with the rise of 3D printing, have we seen the Italian tank version of the Fiat/French FT or perhaps even the Italian armoured car?

[carlos marighela]

There is now a 1/56 version* and super cheap available off the peg. Not perfect but looks good enough for the table.

https://www.anyscalemodels.com/shop/wargames/fiat3000tank.html

https://www.anyscalemodels.com/shop/wargames/fiat3000tank-with-twin-mg.html


*Actually two versions, the twin 6.5mm MG and the 37mm gun armed versions

[Leapsnbounds]

It's been years since I've seen the movie, but I alwys enjoyed it when it came on T.V.