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Author Topic: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?  (Read 4811 times)

Offline Fjodin

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15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« on: May 15, 2010, 01:14:21 AM »
I am finding rules for my 15mm single basing figures for colonials. I am a little bit noob here, so can you help me? Which rules (both free or not) have:
single basing figures
organisations in units + line of sight for each figure in unit (like in Beamstrike)
time period from 1870 to WW1
vehicles, sea ships, and maybe planes
point value system of somesort
terrain for defence

Offline Fjodin

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2010, 03:33:56 AM »
Any suggestions?

Offline Tommy20

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2010, 03:34:40 PM »
I like G.A.S.L.I.G.H.T. for 25's.  No reason you couldn't play it with 15's.
-Tommy

Offline Aaron

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2010, 05:01:57 PM »
Perhaps the new colonial version of Triumph and Tragedy? http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=13883.75

Offline Smokeyrone

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2010, 06:07:05 PM »
TSATF  (although for planes, you'll have to use a supplement)
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Offline Gluteus Maximus

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2010, 09:08:19 PM »
Sorry for not replying sooner!

All three would be fine. Each is a great deal of fun to play and very easy to learn. TSATF is a larger scale and would usually need larger forces than the other two (although there is a "Darkest Africa" skirmish variant). As Smokey says, you'd need a couple of supplements for TSATF, but there are some free ones available online and  "The Virtual Armchair General" does a great naval set - "Breechloaders and Boilers". They are in the USA, however so may be expensive to order from your location. GASLIGHT has a "big battle" supplement which allows similar scale battles to TSATF.

For Gaslight and TSATF, try your local Amazon but I'm not sure about T&T. B&B:

http://www.thevirtualarmchairgeneral.com/079-rules.html#Boilers%20And%20Breechloaders

I'd say try whichever is the easiest to get hold of in Oz  :)

Offline Fjodin

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2010, 12:22:11 AM »
Thanx for replying! I am more wandering about artillery crew. In one of my favourite PC game Blitzkrieg ( ) gun is a single unit, but you can kill the crew and after that you can capture the gun. (It is possible to captuer the wholr battery of long range howitzers). So is there are separate and killable gun crew in these rules?
Also is there are line of  sight for each infantryman and can I capture the boats or steamers buildings in there (1 unit of infantry fires at steamer sailors, other uses captued boat to board the steamer. Than the battle rages on main deck and steamer bridge. After all enemy sailors was killed, I can capture it and use the boat against enemy)?

I am trying to find rules with as many tactical possibilities as it possible! :)
« Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 01:00:17 AM by Fjodin »

Offline Fjodin

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2010, 01:08:39 AM »
OK! I've done a minor research. I think The Sword and the Flame may be that type of rules, I am finding (but I am still need a reply of my previous post about gun crew and ship boarding). I found that cavalry should be 12 figs + 1 NCP and infantry 20 rifles + 1 officer and + 1 NCO. Is there are any additional rules for standart bearers or drummers? If no I can use them as ordinary riflemans 

Offline Fjodin

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2010, 01:14:14 AM »
By the way, what is the cheapest and best way to get last edition Sword and the Flame (Amazon, ebay or etc.)?

Offline Smokeyrone

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2010, 02:17:11 AM »
They have gun mechanics like you say.


 Gunners can fight, break away from gun, spike it, and enemy can overrun it, take it, turn it around or drag  it back to their kraal.

Same with boarding boats.  Big  part of the game.  Fight you way into the captains quarters and loot it, if that's what you want to do.

Defend buildings, enter defended buildings.  If it's in the "Colonial Game", it's in the game!   :)



LOS if from the individual.  Fires is from the individual (or you can fire as a unit), combat is from the individual.


Here, to order:

http://www.sergeants3.com/


Examples of games with it:

http://www.zeitcom.com/majgen/80battl.html
« Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 02:21:25 AM by Smokeyrone »

Offline Fjodin

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2010, 02:31:53 AM »
THANX FOR HELPING! I think I at last found "my type" of rules! RURRAY! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

Offline Fjodin

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2010, 02:37:16 AM »
Two more question about infantry unit.

1) Is there are any brummers or standart bearers in rules?
2)If a unit is 20 men +1NCO +1 Officer what figures are you using for these 2 commanders? Foot commander for NCO and mounted commander for officer or what?

Offline Smokeyrone

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2010, 03:24:46 AM »
De nada.   ;)

I even have the Aztec vs Spaniards supplement.  Very versatile, will let you play anything you want in the Colonial realm.


As to your questions.

1:  add a flagbearer, or make   your NCO your flagbearer (for both armies).  Either way, it doesn't matter. 

2.  You can use foot or mounted officres, (I use both.  Sometimes the officer dismounts, and is replaced by a dismounted officer figure)
« Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 03:28:21 AM by Smokeyrone »

Offline Fjodin

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2010, 05:38:47 AM »
I mean you need 1 NCO and 1 officer for each unit of infantry?

Offline Smokeyrone

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Re: 15/28mm single basing rules - which do you think better?
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2010, 06:10:42 PM »
I mean you need 1 NCO and 1 officer for each unit of infantry?


It helps.  It is not neccessary.  Nothing in the rules will be effected if you have an additional flagbearer, or just one officer or NCO officer in the unit.

I have many "half units" of ten figures and an NCO.

Very flexible as to this.

Don't worry about it man!  Just paint up your units, get the rules, and game!   ;)

 

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