GW really bursting at the seams with the next new thing of theirs...

[Commander Vyper]

I had to go into the local GW to get some more washes (the Shoggoth maxed out my green).

Was faced with the usual stupidly obvious statement:

Customer buys paint: So how's your painting going?

Good. Is my reply.

Points to big plastic spider kit and says: What do you think of our new spider!?!?!?!?!?

It's big. Is my reply.

I then leave.

The spider itself would be interesting but the rest of the rubbish it's attached to, plus I never did get native american goblins myself, (forest goblins my arse!!!).

Can't see myself buying any new GW stuff this year either, that's five years on the trot (apart from oop stuff and LOTR from ebay).

[Luthaaren Von Tegale]

can't say I like the spider -
 but I do like the savage orcs which are released at the same time - useful for primitive martians for vsf games or a lost valley type game back home or for orkish colonial type games with my 40K orks or they could even be used in fantasy games! All in all a usefull release.

vT

[Doomhippie]

I really quite like all the upcoming Orc & Goblin releases. The complaint that they look like toys is a bit odd from a forum that features loads of projects using toys from Poundland and the like. 

I have nor problems with toys per se. I'm personally just not fond of the "big is better" attitude GW sells. Goblins are great and I don't mind forest goblins (though other gobbos are way cooler IMHO). I even can picture them riding on spiders (however apart from Shelob I have yet to see a very convincing spider model). I just don't like this development of putting ever larger monsters on the table. Every 100 model goblin raiding party is now all the sudden going to have this spider along.

I can just hear the veteran soldiers talking about these monsters before the battle:

"Oh great, another unknown, gigantic, world-ending, fire-spitting, spell-using behemoth. When was the last time we actually had to fight any goblins? Hey, remember the unknown, gigantic, ice-spitting, spell-using demon of total and utter destruction we faced last week? And the (repeat enumeration but substitute ice-spitting with XY-spitting) thing the week before? And... (ad infinitum)?"

"Yeah, it's getting boring here. Let's invent flying machines, fly to the stars and see if we can find a planet that has just ordinary gobbos on it. Maybe things will be a bit less hectic there."


I mean, let's face it, the Empire is about the only hordes army that is left when actually they should be the proud few to hold back endless goblin, beastmen or chaoshordes. Soemwhere the rules and game design has gone in a totally different direction.

[YPU]

I mean, let's face it, the Empire is about the only hordes army that is left when actually they should be the proud few to hold back endless goblin, beastmen or chaoshordes. Soemwhere the rules and game design has gone in a totally different direction.

That is if you don't take into consideration the steam tank and those huge contraptions shown in the rulebook, betcha those will be on for the next empire release. 

On an up note, the new horde rule is a pretty big step up for large units, making large units of little green men a bit more useful, spider or no.

[Funghy-Fipps]

Was chatting with a friend on the dog-and-bone last night.  When the new O&G army book and minis came up for discussion he pointed out that it now costs £18 for 10 plastic Orc Boyz.  I choked.  Exsqueeze me?  A baking powder??  So that's £54 for a unit of 30 PLASTIC Orc Boyz?  I don't wish to upset anyone, but who in their right mind buys this stuff any more?  Who can bloody-well afford it, for God's sake?  I don't moan about much hobby-wise, but GW's prices are so extreme as to almost comical.  

[YPU]

That there my friend is the reason I only collect the elite armies of GW games. Well, specialist games aside.

[Hauptgefreiter]

Well, if their models are getting bigger and bigger, might we hope for some TrueScale Marines? 

[YPU]

Well, if their models are getting bigger and bigger, might we hope for some TrueScale Marines? 

I wouldn't hold your breath, have you seen the new bloodraven?

[Hauptgefreiter]

The new dropship? Yes, but I meant infantry

[dijit]

As much as many of us hate GW, we also have to face the fact that it's the only way many of us get to play a real opponent and as yet no one has done any solo rules that I like (THW I'm looking at you!) I'm a bit stuck with GW.
Duncan

[Sangennaru]

As much as many of us hate GW, we also have to face the fact that it's the only way many of us get to play a real opponent and as yet no one has done any solo rules that I like (THW I'm looking at you!) I'm a bit stuck with GW.
Duncan

sadly, that's true, and you are right.


but as orthodox gamer, i still don't use gw stuff, and for that reason i play 1-2 times per year.....

[Brummie]

Maybe the Spiders should rebel, cleanse the planet of Goblins and other fantastical miscreants and then create a vast spaceship and explore brave knew avenues of why GW should make its figures cheaper. Why making stuff more expensive will cut of a lot of gamers especially with the current economic situation!

Then again the spiders will probably take immediate critical strikes when they enter a GW store and get bombarded by the usual GW staff trying to sell them all sorts of rubbish the spider never f***ing wanted! And after they have survived the artillery barrage of incessant questions that take on the character of "Clearly you walking into our shop makes you a Games Workshop fan who has an army and plays all our games!" their fighting morale will be that badly broken they won't have the strength to ask why the prices keep going up!!

[Doomhippie]

I am no GW basher by any means. I love lots of things they have done and even if I don't like all of their stuff and find certain developments rather boring (like creating bigger, better and more boring monsters every other month) I think they also created some of the best miniatures and loads of fun games. I absolutely wouldn't mind playing a little WH fantasy now and then - as long as it is not seen as a competition but more of a story telling affair. That's for me the key element to having fun on  the tabletop...

[meninobesta]

This situation clearly asks for a "Very Warhammer Civil War" 

[Brummie]

I'd actually have a battle between my Mantic Elves and my Warhammer Goblins, however the Great Chief of the Goblin Horde cannot afford to fund an army large enough to take on the already sizeable Elven Empire forces given his arms supplier charges so much, so has reverted to simply running away!