Defiance Games USMC Marines!

[Commander Vyper]

I have to agree, that after the WGF debacle I decided to steer clear of this but as other's have said, those large shots of the marines are just appalling!  Very little sculpted detail and 'enhanced' but the paint job. I really like the concept art, but the execution is absolutely awful and such a same, as I say, as the concept art is very good, (the artwork for the germans and various hardsuits are really nice).

If they actually got decent sculptors in to work on their concepts, they would make ligit money hand over fist. Currently, (in my opinion) they seem to be racking up prepayments to fund the actually releases, have no project and no concept of how to communicate in a businesslike fashion.

I expect that the mud will start to be spread by the company re: product delays, much like the previous venture and everyone, the mould makers,forums, customers, hell probably even the chinese will get the blame for any future defiance fold, (much like the shambles that was WGF).

The Commander

[anevilgiraffe]

for the Frother-phobic  

[Dr.Falkenhayn]

ooh very disapointing  before i spend Money on these i will better start painting  some of my Robogear,EM4 Plastics,SST Troopers or anything else 
Same for the Bugs:theyre (Butt) ugly and i still have plenty shrinkwrapped Boxes of the (much cooler) SST Bugs...
The upcoming Germans perhaps?Well, only if you havent seen the Dream Forge Eisenkern Guys 

otherwise im willing to send them immediatly 100 Bucks for a Meet+Greet (and a kick in his Teeth) with Richard G or Leland.Watch out for the Ass Puppet Special Offer 

[aliensurfer]

if you looke at the third pic, they have painted the eyes so realistically they have got the old red eye from the camera..... 

[supervike]

I think Scurv means TMP, which (when I use it anyway) stands for The Miniatures Page. At least one of my above posts contains a direct link to the next-to-latest "DG hate thread" on their forum. Lost of kinda-sorta-funny stuff's been going on over there during the night I see

Thanks.  I am indeed familair with THe Miniatures Page (TMP), but thought there was something new in the mix.

I agree, those pics of the marines are not too promising.

[Torben]

for the Frother-phobic 
(Pictures)

... Erghm. Well, erh... I'd prefer the EM-4 Plastic troopers; they were made years ago, on the cheap - and they still look better than this!

[joe5mc]

Very few painted miniatures look good when blown up to larger than actual size.

[matakishi]

Very few painted miniatures look good when blown up to larger than actual size.

Most of them have fingers though.
It's not the paint that's the problem, the complete lack of any detail is the problem, and these are the rapid prototypes which will have more detail than the final cast plastic. Not a good sign.

[matakishi]

And, no more discussion about other forums please, you want to complain about the moobs use a PM, that way you can swear at Scott too if you want to

[A_Train]

For someone who didn't know about much of this drama until recently, can you tell me how the Wargames Factory Shocktroopers compare in detail to this marine?   I've heard they are not th ebest, but they still seemed like a relatively good deal to me.
BUt are they as bad as this marine?

[matakishi]

They're better than the marines and they're available to buy which is a point in their favour. Have you seen the Mantic ones?

[A_Train]

When you say the Mantic ones, I assume you mean the Corporation?  They definitely look like some great units, that is for certain.  But they lack two things I really like about the WF Shocktroopers:  Greatcoats and low price. 
I have a pretty small sci fi collection as it stands, and don't even play any set of rules yet.  So in order to get things started I'm hoping to get a fair amount of units at a low price.


The Mantic ones seems like a great suggestion, it would just cost me more to get playing.   Do they scale up well to WF Shocktroopers?  Maybe they could eventually be an opposing force to them.

[anevilgiraffe]

It's not the paint that's the problem, the complete lack of any detail is the problem

the detail is there... it's just painted on 

[ZuluPaul]

I have the WF Shock troopers & I like them. They go together well in my opinion & as stated, they are available now & at a decent price. The heavy weapons set however has no instuctions on assembling the weapons so be aware of that. The figures are OK though.

[Dr.Falkenhayn]

i have the WF Shock Troopers & i hate them:The Details are very soft,its hard to tell the "Leg armour" apart from the Legs or the Boots.Cool,dynamic Poses?Not with these Guys if you have 10 of them in a Line they look like the Terracotta Army.Remember the 2nd Edition 40k Plastic Marines  The only (partly) usefull Things from this Box were the Heads (they wont fit with most other Minis and Lack of Detail-i told you before!)
Honestly, they dont worth the Money at all-for almost the Same Price you can get the 80Minis Bag from Warzone...