17th century ship guns

[Hammers]

I was at the world famous Vasa museum of Stockholm earlier this week with our Fivers and our CanO'Beer and after successfully preventing them from reducing this national treasure to splinters...



... I regaled myself with something from the gift shop...



A bit of a find I think, at €3 a pop. Nicely detailed to. I thought I put them on new carriages for TWY use but now I think they wont look quite right. So I may be willing to part with them if anyone's interested.

[Faber]

Vasa museum was really amazing. I went there in 2007 in a schooltrip. First thing I saw in Sweeden. Lovely place for modellers 
Lovely cannons too, I'd like one but I think shipping would make them not so cheap...

[fastolfrus]

Those look splendid

[Mako]

Those are very nice looking guns.

[WuZhuiQiu]

Yes, they are nice guns - are they 1:48 or 1:50 scale?

Might they also be useful for 30 Years War fortress pieces or as naval guns landed and used in a siege battery?

I wonder if the Museum shop has an online store, even though the guns do seem a bit ornate for ordinary ships...

Long ago, my father had visited the museum and bought a larger-scale (1:12 or so?) gun model, with a wooden carriage and trucks, bronze barrel, and iron fittings. It did seem to be from the same design, though.

[Hammers]

Yes, they are nice guns - are they 1:48 or 1:50 scale?

Might they also be useful for 30 Years War fortress pieces or as naval guns landed and used in a siege battery?

I wonder if the Museum shop has an online store, even though the guns do seem a bit ornate for ordinary ships...

Long ago, my father had visited the museum and bought a larger-scale (1:12 or so?) gun model, with a wooden carriage and trucks, bronze barrel, and iron fittings. It did seem to be from the same design, though.

They are 1/50. I checked the shop and there is no online store. I suppose one could always give them a ring.

[Galland]

Yes, they are nice guns - are they 1:48 or 1:50 scale?

Might they also be useful for 30 Years War fortress pieces or as naval guns landed and used in a siege battery?

I wonder if the Museum shop has an online store, even though the guns do seem a bit ornate for ordinary ships...

Long ago, my father had visited the museum and bought a larger-scale (1:12 or so?) gun model, with a wooden carriage and trucks, bronze barrel, and iron fittings. It did seem to be from the same design, though.

How on earth can they be TOO ornate for a ship when they are copies of cannons from a... ship? Do remember that Sweden was one of the absolute largest sea nations of this time competing with england and the like, so I am sure that they made one or two ship cannons.

[WuZhuiQiu]

How on earth can they be TOO ornate for a ship when they are copies of cannons from a... ship? Do remember that Sweden was one of the absolute largest sea nations of this time competing with england and the like, so I am sure that they made one or two ship cannons.

I wrote "...ordinary ships..." with emphasis newly-added.

Before assuming that a poster is an idiot, please be sure to re-read what he wrote, and ensure that you understand correctly...  

I had thought that, since the Vasa was a royal ship, her guns (their barrels, actually) might have been a bit more ornate than the guns on ordinary vessels, regardless of their nationality.

[Hammers]

I had thought that, since the Vasa was a royal ship, her guns (their barrels, actually) might have been a bit more ornate than the guns on ordinary vessels, regardless of their nationality.

Indeed she was. The term is regalskepp, a definition reserved for ships named by the riksregalia, like The Crown, The Scepter, The Orb (Riksäpplet) etc. Wasen (Modern Vasa, Eng. The Faggot?) was the emblem of the dynasty.

I am sure many of the guns (Vasa was one of the most heavily armed ships of her time) were captured or ordered from abroad. The Swedish gun mmanufacturing of the time was not shabby but could not meet the demands.

I *think* the the souvenir guns are copies of a barrel salvaged from the wreck.

[Ninja]

This is a find for sure! I might just have to give them a ring...

[Blue in vt]

As a Nautical Archaeologist the Vasa is like Mecca for me...I will make it there some day...one of my professors from grad school is now the head of the research department at the Vasa Museum and has offered me a behind the scenes tour...if I can just find the money to get to Stockholm!

The guns look great.

Cheers,

Blue

[Hammers]

As a Nautical Archaeologist the Vasa is like Mecca for me...I will make it there some day...one of my professors from grad school is now the head of the research department at the Vasa Museum and has offered me a behind the scenes tour...if I can just find the money to get to Stockholm!

The guns look great.

Cheers,

Blue

I am sure you are aware that the Balitc is littered with well preserved ships of impressive  age. Every fall there a re new reports of new finds. Most recently there was a talk of the 14th century Dutch kegg  not far from where I live, standing on its keel with masts intact. These finds are rarely brought to the surface these days mainly because they are better preserved at the bottom of the Baltic where there's no shipworm and no oxygen. (Mixed blessing, that oxygen bit...)

[carlos marighela]

Wow! Those are something I could use. Some of the guns mouted on Forte de Santo Antônio are of that ornate style. If you decide to let them go I'd be happy to take them off your hands.

[Hammers]

They've been spoken for but I'll get you some new ones if you are not in a hurry.