*

Recent Topics

Author Topic: White or Khaki harness: A Colonial button-counter's question  (Read 5777 times)

Offline Arlequín

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 6218
  • Culpame de la Bossa Nova...
Re: White or Khaki harness: A Colonial button-counter's question
« Reply #15 on: 23 December 2011, 01:37:50 AM »
Not forgetting black for the KRRC.  ;)

Offline Plynkes

  • The Royal Bastard
  • Moderator
  • Elder God
  • Posts: 10317
  • I killed Mufasa!
    • http://misterplynkes.blogspot.com/
Re: White or Khaki harness: A Colonial button-counter's question
« Reply #16 on: 23 December 2011, 08:59:13 AM »
Not forgetting? I didn't forget that.  ;)

Came in black or buff...

KAR had black Slade-Wallace too, pre-war.
With Cat-Like Tread
Upon our prey we steal...

Offline Arlequín

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 6218
  • Culpame de la Bossa Nova...
Re: White or Khaki harness: A Colonial button-counter's question
« Reply #17 on: 23 December 2011, 11:01:51 AM »
That will teach me to read properly.  :)

I've no real idea, but I suspect that they would all come from the supplier in the buff and the recruit's first task would be to apply the relevant colour as part of the 'bull, blanco and brasso' system.

Going back to the OP though, it would depend upon how rigidly the rules were applied. If your RSM or Colonel was a martinet, he'd insist that the regulations were for white (or black etc) equipment and woe betide any man who did different. A more practical commander might be a bit less stiff on campaign, but even as late as the 2nd Boer War, the outline of a soldier's equipment provided a convenient aiming point.



These men were photographed in Cardigan on their return from South Africa in 1902. Their equipment is white, but use has worn it back to the buff in places of heavy wear. This implies that regular blancoing had stopped, but there appears to be no effort made to 'camouflage' the equipment.



Whether they are wearing worn-white, or 'tea-dyed' equipment, this Maxim crew's equipment is clearly much lighter than their uniform, which itself was much lighter than the later 'khaki' in general use (as in the photo above).

Bearing in mind that all the photographic evidence shows lighter equipment, or darker if it's brown or black, and the original picture is an 'artists impression', then the reason why most people paint their equipment white or off-white is because it was.

 :)
« Last Edit: 23 December 2011, 11:48:38 AM by Arlequín »

Offline Plynkes

  • The Royal Bastard
  • Moderator
  • Elder God
  • Posts: 10317
  • I killed Mufasa!
    • http://misterplynkes.blogspot.com/
Re: White or Khaki harness: A Colonial button-counter's question
« Reply #18 on: 23 December 2011, 11:25:14 AM »
Yes, that is certainly true for the white equipment, which started out buff. I don't know about the black though, that may actually have been black leather. Not sure.

Offline Arlequín

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 6218
  • Culpame de la Bossa Nova...
Re: White or Khaki harness: A Colonial button-counter's question
« Reply #19 on: 23 December 2011, 11:59:39 AM »
I'd doubt it, but it's possible. Thinking logically it would make sense to have it all buff, which would ease construction and supply. That was the case with the later '08 and '38 webbing at least, it came in one colour and it was up to the squaddie to make it the colour it was supposed to be, which in the case of those regiments which wore black, meant boot polish was used. As kit was re-issued over and over, you might even get a white belt which had to be made black. As soldiers had to pay for cleaning materials out of their own pocket, providing 'one finish suits all' would be quite a saving for the MoD.

Like I said, I've no real idea, but as it's the British government we are talking about, my money's on them saving a few pence by issuing them 'unfinished'.

 ;)

Offline gloriousbattle

  • Mad Scientist
  • Posts: 667
  • Oi! Dat's My Leg!
Re: White or Khaki harness: A Colonial button-counter's question
« Reply #20 on: 23 December 2011, 05:02:30 PM »





Not to hijack my own thread (though I now, of course, proceed to do just that) but how did that guy on the right manage to get/stay fat during that conflict?  Quartermaster?  Come to think of it, the guy on the left could use a few hours on stairmaster as well...  :o
« Last Edit: 23 December 2011, 05:04:56 PM by gloriousbattle »

Offline Arlequín

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 6218
  • Culpame de la Bossa Nova...
Re: White or Khaki harness: A Colonial button-counter's question
« Reply #21 on: 24 December 2011, 02:31:10 AM »
I couldn't really say, but a possibility is sustained blockhouse duty with nothing but tins of bully beef and a pack of cards to hold back the monotony. I don't know which regiment they belong to, but I'm guessing they are reservists or Territorials. Who knows, the guy on the right might have lost some weight while he was out there.

 :)

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
10 Replies
5651 Views
Last post 06 December 2006, 06:55:57 PM
by dominic
11 Replies
4749 Views
Last post 06 December 2010, 04:38:09 PM
by Arlequín
7 Replies
3596 Views
Last post 16 January 2011, 11:13:37 AM
by Smokeyrone
5 Replies
5397 Views
Last post 16 March 2011, 01:27:09 PM
by Rhodes
12 Replies
1449 Views
Last post 28 August 2017, 07:20:19 PM
by cram