*

Recent Topics

Author Topic: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?  (Read 3917 times)

Offline Frigo97

  • Assistant
  • Posts: 28
    • http://parvimilites.blogspot.com/
New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« on: March 25, 2012, 03:46:50 PM »
Since yesterday I knew there are the new colours of Citadel: they are divided in 6 category for facilitate the painting for the principiant, too.
But I think that will disappear the cleverness and the learning by errors.
I think also that it a way for gain much money, because a painter who wants to paint the minis very good needs all the colours...
Than : it's a good or bad thing?
Talk about!

Online YPU

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 4434
  • In glorious 3D!
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 04:33:19 PM »
IF they indeed do what they say they do, then I guess having these would not be a bad thing. This being the evil empire I would be pessimistic but besides the price gw paints have been getting better over the years I feel, washes were indeed pretty darn good, the foundation paints do what they should, even liquid greenstuff wasn't as horrendous as we thought it would be.
3d designer, sculptor and printer, at your service!

Offline Dewbakuk

  • Administrator
  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 5775
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 04:58:25 PM »
Liquid greenstuff is brilliant. It's not going to fill any big gaps for you but it does well on cracks. What I've found it most useful for however is adding buttons etc to coats! You just put a row of dots on with a paintbrush. I've even used it to add hair to a figure after chopping wires etc off their head. Just put two coats on and as the second one was setting I ran the brush over it again to add texture.

The foundation paints were pretty good so adding more colours to it can't be a bad thing.
Some washes were better than others so it remains to be seen if the extra new ones will be of any real use.
The standard range wasn't very good in my opinion, you could get better paints from other companies so they needed to change them.

I think also that it a way for gain much money, because a painter who wants to paint the minis very good needs all the colours...


It's a business, they need to make money. All the very good painters I know use paints from many different companies (inc the GW fanboys) and only buy the colours they want to use. Most of them mix their own colours while painting anyway so I don't see any need to buy all the colours.
So many projects..... so little time.......

Offline Kitsune

  • Mad Scientist
  • Posts: 714
    • Mosquito on the Tenth Floor
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2012, 08:51:27 AM »
Fairly apathetic about another change of the GW colour names on thier paints. £2.30 going up to £2.50 is past my point of purchase when Vallejo is out there.

Offline joroas

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 7802
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2012, 09:08:28 AM »
Well, any new range of paints is always handy.  Like others I accumulated a lot of paints on EBay and shows when they were cheap, so i have a huge collection in reserve.

The main use of GW is that it is the easiest place for most of us to pick up odd paints in a hurry.

The liquid green stuff I use to fill small joints, very handy and very easy to use.
'So do all who see such times. But that is not for us to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that we are given.'

Offline Kitsune

  • Mad Scientist
  • Posts: 714
    • Mosquito on the Tenth Floor

Offline TheShadow

  • Scientist
  • Posts: 382
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2012, 09:18:26 AM »
roll on my local toymaster selling off the old paints at a quid a pop ! i remember getting lucky one day when they had foundation paints at 0.80p each because they werent selling at all.....!
"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!"
"The weed of crime bears bitter fruit. Crime does not pay.... The Shadow knows!"

Offline Bobble

  • Scientist
  • Posts: 446
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2012, 10:37:17 AM »
Well my humble opinion on this is that if these paints do "what they say on the tin" then they will be very useful for us mere mortals,who dont have the painting skills of some of the LAF gods,to get some reasonably well painted figures onto the gaming tables.
I have always been of the opinion that the Citadel Washes were one of my best friends as they not only helped to shade but also to cover a multitude of sins when it comes to the standard of my painting. I am not a big fan of Games Workshop as I find that their range of minis is both expensive and not,usually,to my taste but I have always liked their paints as they are easy to get hold of and,to be honest,are pretty much all I've ever used (tried Vallejo a couple of times but was not overly impressed,Im afraid)
Just my opinion of course and everyone will have their own but anything that can potentially make the life of a struggling wargamer just that little bit easier and can be found by most of us in our own towns has got to be worth trying

Offline answer_is_42

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1637
  • Mostly Harmless.
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 11:03:53 AM »
Fairly apathetic about another change of the GW colour names on thier paints. £2.30 going up to £2.50 is past my point of purchase when Vallejo is out there.
£2.50? Yeah, that's me out. So, here we are. GW have finally raised their prices across everything to the point I can't justify buying anything from them at all!

Fun.
I told you so. You damned fools.
 - H.G. Wells

Offline joroas

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 7802
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 11:31:30 AM »
Haven't bought any figures from there for a while, but they are always handy for the odd paint or two.

Offline Hammers

  • Amateur papiermachiéer
  • Moderator
  • Elder God
  • *
  • Posts: 16143
  • Workbench and Pulp Moderator
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 12:02:28 PM »
Deal or no deal?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat470002a&prodId=prod1560002a

"free" case - ha!

Free case or not...

All 216 Reaper Master paints at £415 = £ 0,50 1,92 per pot (sorry, I should not have breakfasted on a bottle of Chivas...)

All 145 Citadel pots at £ 333 = 2.30 per pot.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2012, 01:13:03 PM by Hammers »

Offline Mr.Marx

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1222
    • Bloggity-Blog-Blog / "The Zone"
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 12:43:06 PM »
Free case or not...

All 216 Reaper Master paints at £415 = £ 0.50 per pot

All 145 Citadel pots at £ 333 = 2.30 per pot.

...and the Reaper Master Series is probably the set of paints that Ive ever used....and the half-wife got them a fair bit cheaper than that by shipping them over from the states when they had an offer on  :D

MM

Offline black hat miniatures

  • Mastermind
  • Posts: 1035
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2012, 12:51:05 PM »
Free case or not...

All 216 Reaper Master paints at £415 = £ 0.50 per pot

All 145 Citadel pots at £ 333 = 2.30 per pot.

erm... £415 / 216 = £1.92 a pot....

Coat D'arms paints - all 150 for £265 = £1.77 a pot...

Mike
Mike Lewis

ex Black Hat Miniatures / Imperial Miniatures
Retired and working through the Lead Mountain

Offline Hammers

  • Amateur papiermachiéer
  • Moderator
  • Elder God
  • *
  • Posts: 16143
  • Workbench and Pulp Moderator
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2012, 01:18:02 PM »
Liquid greenstuff is brilliant. It's not going to fill any big gaps for you but it does well on cracks. What I've found it most useful for however is adding buttons etc to coats! You just put a row of dots on with a paintbrush. I've even used it to add hair to a figure after chopping wires etc off their head. Just put two coats on and as the second one was setting I ran the brush over it again to add texture.

The foundation paints were pretty good so adding more colours to it can't be a bad thing.
Some washes were better than others so it remains to be seen if the extra new ones will be of any real use.
The standard range wasn't very good in my opinion, you could get better paints from other companies so they needed to change them.

It's a business, they need to make money. All the very good painters I know use paints from many different companies (inc the GW fanboys) and only buy the colours they want to use. Most of them mix their own colours while painting anyway so I don't see any need to buy all the colours.

This. ^

I would not exchange the Citadel Blood Red and their three yellows for anything else on the market right now. Same goes for a couple of the washes.

Offline john Hollyoak

  • Scientist
  • Posts: 346
Re: New Citadel colours: good or bad thing?
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 04:44:43 PM »
Well I use the washes by the bucket and love em so I am looking forward to some more. Anybody know when they are due out?
I am no GW fanboy but am always bemused by the pricing outcry. How many of us have a pile of money invested in figures that will never get painted, yet moan about an extra 50p for a pot of paint.

john

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
11 Replies
4821 Views
Last post September 09, 2008, 03:54:17 AM
by archangel1
26 Replies
7199 Views
Last post December 05, 2008, 08:43:53 PM
by Zafarelli
16 Replies
10913 Views
Last post December 03, 2009, 08:07:17 PM
by fairoaks024
97 Replies
34200 Views
Last post March 07, 2010, 07:30:27 AM
by ultralite
4 Replies
3164 Views
Last post June 26, 2017, 07:43:22 PM
by Ballardian