M.O.O.S.(E). Ministry of Occult Studies (England): 12/10 Game shots

[Steve F]

You learn something new every day on LAF. I've lived here (England) for 66 years and never heard that before. I've heard "pony" used in slang for a monetary value (£25.00?) but not the rhyming slang meaning before.

And even more commonly, "to pony up", meaning to pay.  But no, I've never heard "pony" meaning cr*p, even though I lived in London for 16 years: not much rhyming slang at all in fact - I suspect that it exists now solely in the minds of scriptwriters.

[Mason]

Styx, mate: Dont believe everything you hear.
A whole load of new rhyming slang rubbish has been made up in recent years.
For example: 'You're 'avin' a bubble' (you are having a bubble bath/laugh).
Nonsense 'cockney' made up by the younger generation.

But dont worry, me old china, you are not on your Jack Jones with that one, there are plenty of wannabe cockneys out there who aint got a Danny!

Have a look at this link for a good example of how much 'recently added' rhyming slang exists today;

http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk

[Legionnaire Bert]

You learn something new every day on LAF. I've lived here (England) for 66 years and never heard that before. I've heard "pony" used in slang for a monetary value (£25.00?) but not the rhyming slang meaning before.

Doug

Possibly just a London thing, I'm not sure! Are you based in the 1st city, Doug?

[Legionnaire Bert]

My friend is British born and Canadian raised, his wife claims she does not understand him...I just pointed out that he was born in a country with a desert called Spotted Dick....she just died laughing and he shook his head.

Fair point!

[styx]

Styx, mate: Dont believe everything you hear.
A whole load of new rhyming slang rubbish has been made up in recent years.
For example: 'You're 'avin' a bubble' (you are having a bubble bath/laugh).
Nonsense 'cockney' made up by the younger generation.

But dont worry, me old china, you are not on your Jack Jones with that one, there are plenty of wannabe cockneys out there who aint got a Danny!

Have a look at this link for a good example of how much 'recently added' rhyming slang exists today;

http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk

Yea, we have our fair share of slang here...

Ducks=bucks or dollars
Rents= Parents

Among other fun slang words....I have heard a few of late but I have forgotten them as I don't hear them often enough to care....

[Legionnaire Bert]

not much rhyming slang at all in fact - I suspect that it exists now solely in the minds of scriptwriters.

Trust me that pony meaning c**p is alive and well in coloquial use in South London! You boys have had a sheltered upbringing .

Yeah, generally not too much rhyming slang about these days though I agree. Although the phrase 'Havin' a Turkish' to denote someone taking the Mick for Turkish Bath = Laugh entered common vernacular in the late 90's. I first came across it whilst watching my beloved Chelsea caning Spurs 6-1 at their place - we were definitely 'avin a Turkish that day!

[Legionnaire Bert]

Styx, mate: Dont believe everything you hear.
A whole load of new rhyming slang rubbish has been made up in recent years.
Nonsense 'cockney' made up by the younger generation.

Nonsense Cockney indeed! Since when was rhyming slang proper English then Mason?

The beauty of language is that it evolves, as is right and proper. Slang expecially, Know what I mean, blud? D'ya get me!

Know what you mean though, mate. One which came along mid-90's was 'getting the petrol pump' meaning taking umbrage - Petrol Pump=Hump. Dodgy, that one.

My favourite piece of rhyming slang has to be refering to someone's posterior as their 'Aris' (and yes, this one is alive and well and in use, slang fans - in my family, at least!). It's great because it is rhyming slang made from rhyming slang - Aris, meaning Aristotle - Aristotle=Bottle, Bottle and Glass=A**e. Convoluted in the extreme, but I like that about it.

[thebinmann]

Aris used by my family too, but the best is syrup...

[TimK]

As an erstwhile Londoner I can confirmthe common usage of pony = c**p. But many more have entered common usage so that people don't know that they came from rhyming slang. Berk (generally used to mean idiot or something similar) actually derives from Berkshire Hunt, which rhymes with a very much more insulting word!

Tim

[Mason]

Chaps,
This daliance in the foul and ignorant tongues used by the working classes has gone on for long enough.
We should be concentrating our efforts on defeating the forces of the Occult and not dabbling in ignorant vernacular that may lead to confusion and discord.
It is time that we all returned to the subject in hand.

Bearing this in mind, I would like to bring to your attention our latest recruit, Captain Wislan-Flute, who will be joining our comrades in the far reaches of Russia.

An image of the gentleman, for recognition purposes, is attached.

With respect,
Sir Tunly-Gay.

Minister of Occult Studies (England)






(This miniature was sent to me as a gift by majorsmith to add to the team.
Many thanks, majorsmith, very much appreciated!
I feel another picture will have to be taken, as it really does not do it justice.
Rebased in the usual fashion).

[Legionnaire Bert]

Well moderated Mason! The discussion on slang was an interesting aside, but not for these fabled pages much longer I fear .

I tried out my rules for a Strange Aeons/Warhammer 40,000 fusion I am calling Strange Aeons: Inquisitor last night, and seemed to work okay. If I ever I get anywhere near as technically adept and equipped as Mason I'd like to replicate the great man's posting prowess on thsi august organ at some point.

Bert

[Legionnaire Bert]

Aris used by my family too, but the best is syrup...

Ah, the old syrup! Yes, tis a goodie - unless one is a wig wearer oneself!

[Legionnaire Bert]

As an erstwhile Londoner I can confirmthe common usage of pony = c**p. But many more have entered common usage so that people don't know that they came from rhyming slang. Berk (generally used to mean idiot or something similar) actually derives from Berkshire Hunt, which rhymes with a very much more insulting word!

Tim

Classic, Tim!

[styx]

Great figure! Wow the army of metal is growing!

[Steve F]

Berk (generally used to mean idiot or something similar) actually derives from Berkshire Hunt, which rhymes with a very much more insulting word!

Or not.  The county, after all, is pronounced differently ("Bark-sheer"); and "berk" isn't that harsh.  A possible alternative derivation is from the Romany "berk" or "burk" meaning breast or tit.  My slang dictionary notes that the word was virtually unknown until popularised by Steptoe and Son, written by Ray Galton and Alan Simpson, both Londoners.

Curiously, according to Eric Partridge, in the 19th century "Berkeley Hunt" meant breasts, again possibly from the Romany.  In the 20th century it acquired the same rhyming slang meaning as "Berkshire Hunt".