Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.157 Another company of men at arms

[voltan]

See I'm torn now because I know that the gunners wouldn't of let iron guns get rusty but I also think rusty guns look better  

*edit*
Forgot to say cracking job of painting.

[Mason]

Superb and inspired conversions for the gunners.
Gianluigi cracked me up!
 

And those cannon look amazing!
Sod historical accuracy and all that, they look great as they are.
 


One small complaint, though- Shouldn't Ronaldo look like he is sulking and whining a little more?
 

[Bugsda]

  Excellent addition to your canon 

The weathered iron is superb, how did you do it?  Can't wait for the crew 

[OSHIROmodels]

Superb Richard 

I say sod the accuracy as well, they look fine as they are.

Just out of curiosity, would parts of the frame (or even the gun itself) have been painted in livery colours?

cheers

James

[dodge]

I think their great

all good

dodge

[Mick_in_Switzerland]

I went to see the Burgundian artillery at La Neuveville about three weeks ago.
They have 12 pieces in the museum there.  
In total, I think there are 25 pieces in various museums.
There are some more at Murten and Grandson.
I think Zurich, Paris and St Gallen have one each.
The metal is forged iron so it has a black colour now.  
The carriages are aged wood and look a bestial brown colour.
I think some of the wooden carriages have been repaired or remade about 200 years ago.

I also bought the book "The Artillery of the Dukes of Burgundy".

I recall reading that some medieval guns had painted carriages and I think it is very likely that the guns with elevation mechanisms were painted.
Most of the drawings in Schilling show guns simply as golden brown.

I like the look of the rusty effect but I think it is a bit over the top.
Forged iron does not rust as severely as or cast iron or modern mild steel.
The wheels would not have much rust on the running surfaces.
I suspect that the gunners kept the barrels and the elevation bars fairly clean to ensure that they worked properly.

Mick

[Mick_in_Switzerland]

Sorry posted twice

[Hammers]

Not strictly mounted men at arms, I know, but I went off down a side alley and  painted the artillery park a few days ago...

I am not ashamed to admit I get a cast iron erection by these. Heavy guns, quality painting, the rusting...

[katie]

Oh please tell how you're doing the rusty metal -- I've never managed to get it looking right.

[Mo!]

Wow this is such an inspiration!!! Great builds and paintjobs!

Personally I really don't care for the GW headswaps as they are way to big for my taste but the rest is spot on!!!

[Arlequín]

They look great even if they look wrong.  

I can see the iron rims of the wheels having a patina of rust, but constant contact with the road would give a clean iron effect (think used steel train tracks). Iron barrels were forged not cast and were naturally more resistant to corrosion. The rusty stuff you see nowadays is largely low quality mass-produced cast iron.

Metal parts were either painted (commonly black, but sometimes red, or maybe even other colours) or possibly 'russeted' (chemically browned, like the 'brown bills' often referred to, possibly even where 'Brown Bess' originated), which would give them a slightly rusty look. Obviously there were cast bronze barrels too, which were more expensive.

Being a gunner was a hazardous job and continuous maintenance part of their health and safety regime... King James II of Scotland was killed by a gun exploding in 1460, apparently a common occurrence.

 

[OSHIROmodels]

Being a gunner was a hazardous job

I think Micheal Perry can attest to that.

Thanks very much for the consise reply, I'm getting more and more interested in this period (and figure range of course  ).

cheers

James

[Arlequín]

Black powder weapons are inherently hazardous, goes with the territory... figures often show 'musketeers loading', with the ram rod firmly clenched in the fist... in reality they were held between thumb and a couple of fingers, as this caused far less damage to the hand if the weapon discharged. Likewise 'sighting' down the barrel will sooner or later result in injury.

I'm getting more and more interested in this period (and figure range of course  ).

It is obsessively compelling the more you get into it (or so I'm told, I wouldn't know ). You begin with a pre-conceived set of ideas about the period and the deeper you go, the quicker these are dispelled. As it hasn't yet been done to death by historians and gamers, there's still room for you to form your own ideas and draw conclusions from them. It's also quite amazing how quickly many of the 'wargaming myths' about the era get dispelled too!

[janner]

I think Micheal Perry can attest to that.

Thanks very much for the consise reply, I'm getting more and more interested in this period (and figure range of course  ).

cheers

James

Come towards the light...

[einarolafson]

Lovely artillery pieces!!