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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new conversions 27.5.2013)
« Reply #75 on: 28 May 2013, 07:25:53 PM »
Took a blooming age to load up the frst image but it was worth it. Quite an intricate job you've done!

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new conversions 27.5.2013)
« Reply #76 on: 29 May 2013, 04:50:03 PM »
Heralds were common during the Hundred Years War and the Wars of The Roses. They were neutral observers who ensured that knight's bodies were correctly identified and returned to their families. I think they sometimes also did negotiations of ransoms for prisoners.

Does anybody know if the Swiss and Burgundians had heralds?

I tend to think that they did not. Neither side had a good record with prisoners and Charles the Bold's body was left unidentified for many hours at Nancy.

Also how common were pages? Would each mounted Man at Arms have a squire or only the highest ranking officers?

(I am tempted to buy even more Perry figures as decoration for my armies.)

Thanks
Mick
 


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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new conversions 27.5.2013)
« Reply #77 on: 30 May 2013, 01:04:48 PM »
Mick
I see no reason why the dukes of Burgundy would not have heralds - as you say they have a role to play at court, at tournaments and in war. There are illuminations showing such heralds at the Burgundian court I'm sure (but cannot check right now).
It is an interesting question re the Swiss - as most of the army was raised from an urban leadership, I'm unsure. The Schilling Chronicles show clearly messangers, who maybe so, but not a distinctive herald wearingt their lord's coats of arms - I'll search further through images when I can.
Re pages, each 'lance' was suppose to include a page, and so anyone who's status enabled them to contract for a lance, would have a page - some maybe younger teenage nobility, learning their creft, and so these could fight in support of a man at arms in many cases.
Simon.

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new conversions 27.5.2013)
« Reply #78 on: 30 May 2013, 02:16:06 PM »
Dear Simon,

I just saw the Perry Herald painted as a Burgundian, on your blog post.
As usual it is excellent.

Do the Perry heralds in the WOTR command sets have "moulded on" coats of arms or are they plain?

Thanks
Mick



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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new conversions 27.5.2013)
« Reply #79 on: 30 May 2013, 05:23:06 PM »
Burgundy certainly had heralds. I'm thinking of Toison d'or

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new conversions 27.5.2013)
« Reply #80 on: 30 May 2013, 06:37:36 PM »
Mick
The Perry metal heads have plain / smooth tabards (ie unlike the Perry HYW personality figures).
Simon

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new conversions 27.5.2013)
« Reply #81 on: 30 May 2013, 07:37:29 PM »
Great - Thank-you

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new photos 1.6.2013)
« Reply #82 on: 01 June 2013, 04:56:03 PM »
Here are some pictures of my workbench.

Flickr gallery
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31905569@N05/

Perry Mounted Men at Arms Conversions with right hands holding reins.


Perry Lancastrian Command on Foot and Mounted
These are temporary substitutes for Burgundian command until the Perries bring out new sets.


Perry Labourers - bucket, box and wheelbarrow are converted plastics.


Perry WOTR with Fireforge Sergeants' arms to give some skirmishers.


Fireforge Sergeants as a medieval warband - some with Perry arms to make archers.


Fireforge Sergeants with an old Citadel Pack horse.  Note the converted backpack inspired by the Otherworld Indiego extra figures.


Regards
Mick

« Last Edit: 02 June 2013, 03:39:27 PM by Mick_in_Switzerland »

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new photos 1.6.2013)
« Reply #83 on: 01 June 2013, 06:44:06 PM »
I like especially the labourers. I missed something like that for my siege of neuss project. You showed the way.  :)

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new photos 1.6.2013)
« Reply #84 on: 01 June 2013, 07:17:11 PM »
The skirmishers look nice with the fireforge arms, might buy them for my own conversions.

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new photos 1.6.2013)
« Reply #85 on: 02 June 2013, 09:18:48 PM »
Superb conversions and very creative ideas, Mick! Smashing!
 :-*

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new photos 1.6.2013)
« Reply #86 on: 03 June 2013, 11:01:48 PM »
Nice work Mick - really like the two mounted figs and will log those conversions for future reference.  ;)
Simon.

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (new photos 1.6.2013)
« Reply #87 on: 03 June 2013, 11:32:06 PM »
Great work Mick.

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (Perry foot knights 6th Sept 2014)
« Reply #88 on: 06 September 2014, 04:55:55 PM »
I pre-ordered the new Perry Foot Knights kit.  The kit arrived on the 1st of September.
Here are the first ten.

Most will go into my Burgundian army, hence the blue and white colour scheme.
Richard's heraldry was a challenge but looks better than I had expected.
I need a paper flag for his standard bearer.

Bigger picture on Flickr
https://www.flickr.com/photos/31905569@N05/

Mick

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Re: Mick's Swiss and Burgundians (Perry foot knights 6th Sept 2014)
« Reply #89 on: 06 September 2014, 05:06:56 PM »
Wow, you go them done quick  8)

Looking good  :-*

cheers

James

 

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