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Offline racm32

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Death of Magellan
« on: 01 April 2013, 03:48:46 PM »
Ok so in the 16th century Magellan attempted to circumnavigate the globe and while his crew was successful he, however, was killed. Now while this is something most of us learn in school what I did not know,until I married a Filipina, is that he was slain my a Filipino Chieftain/warrior named Lapu-Lapu. To this day he is a national hero and legend in the Philippines much like George Washington or Davy Croket is in America. Now I have been able to find a good variety of Spanish conquistador figures but none that would convert well to Filipino warriors. So here are some images of what Filipino warriors of the time are to considered to have looked like and if any of you know of minis I could use for them then please let me know.






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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #1 on: 01 April 2013, 04:04:01 PM »
You might be interested in Hari Ragat...

http://hariragat.blogspot.ca/

I'm interested myself, and may end up incorporating suitable figures into the Garden of Kama setting.

Until then, doesn't Eureka do Dayaks? And Hawaians, as well. Haven't looked at them for a long time so I can't remember how suitable they might be.

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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #2 on: 01 April 2013, 04:35:34 PM »
Gringo 40 are bringing out Conquistadores and Mayans on 28mm and talking about othet natives too - maybe you could persuade them to go into Philipinos?
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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #3 on: 01 April 2013, 05:32:43 PM »
Gringo 40 are bringing out Conquistadores and Mayans on 28mm and talking about othet natives too - maybe you could persuade them to go into Philipinos?

Gotta agree - I should think Gringo 40's Conquistadores would provide some ideal characters for Magellans men, and will be worth you watching developments for the "natives"  8)


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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #4 on: 01 April 2013, 05:58:17 PM »
They seem to be not too far from Indians in loincloth. I think Foundry has some suitable ones if you can convert the weapons? Maybe also Darkest Africa natives in loincloth if you can make a headswap
« Last Edit: 01 April 2013, 06:03:22 PM by traveller »

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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #5 on: 01 April 2013, 08:25:31 PM »
more temptation chaps............suffice to say i will be doing a lot of

natives ...........with a few pleasant suprises thrown in!!

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Offline carlos marighela

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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #6 on: 01 April 2013, 09:50:17 PM »
Outpost/ Monday Knight Designs did 25mm Filipino figures as part of a Philippine Insurrection/ SAW range. Not sure of quality or size I've just seen some photos in old wargaming mags.

Old Glory do some Filipino warriors in wooden armour. For the rest I suspect you could get away with the Dyaks from Eureka.
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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #7 on: 01 April 2013, 10:40:13 PM »
gents

not sure if you are aware but i am doing the Spanish-American war and
will cover Cuba,,Philippines and Puerto Rico.......so i guess a few ancient
types will be covered.

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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #8 on: 02 April 2013, 03:32:50 AM »
gents

not sure if you are aware but i am doing the Spanish-American war and
will cover Cuba,,Philippines and Puerto Rico.......so i guess a few ancient
types will be covered.

regards
Ged

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and 28mm ranges

Despite getting away from 25+ mm figures I will keep an eye open for these.  I retire in 2016 so start sculpting!

Gracias,

Glenn
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Offline HerbyF

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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #9 on: 02 April 2013, 03:44:43 AM »
I have done a few units of Moros for late 19th to early 20th century conflicts. Many of the Moro figures look similar to these. Also I have used some Aztec & Mayan warriors mixed in with weapon swaps. Figures with long hair in loin cloth armed with south & southeast asian style weapons will work just fine. Pulp figures does a set of Melonesean warriors too.
« Last Edit: 02 April 2013, 03:46:20 AM by HerbyF »
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Offline Franz_Josef

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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #10 on: 03 April 2013, 02:20:03 AM »
This from Wikipedia re the Battle of Mactan, where Magellan met his fate (sounds like a good scenario for a wargame skirmish):
According to the documents of Italian historian Antonio Pigafetta, Magellan tried to convince Lapu-Lapu to comply with Rajah Humabon's (the "king" who had been baptized) orders the night before the battle
"At midnight, sixty of us set out armed with corselets and helmets, together with the Christian king, the prince, some of the chief men, and twenty or thirty balanguais. [a type of Filipino boat] We reached Mactan three hours before dawn. The captain did not wish to fight then, but sent a message to the natives to the effect that if they would obey the king of Spain, recognize the Christian king as their sovereign, and pay us our tribute, he would be their friend; but that if they wished otherwise, they should wait to see how our lances wounded. They replied that if we had lances they had lances of bamboo and stakes hardened with fire. [they asked us] not to proceed to attack them at once, but to wait until morning, so that they might have more men. They said that in order to induce us to go in search of them; for they had dug certain pit holes between the houses in order that we might fall into them.[4]
Pigafetta writes how Magellan deployed forty-nine armored men with swords, axes, shields, crossbows and guns, and sailed for Mactan in the morning of April 28.[1] Filipino historians note that because of the rocky outcroppings, and coral near the beach, the Spanish soldiers could not land on Mactan. Forced to anchor their ships far from shore, Magellan could not bring his ships' howitzers to bear on Datu Lapu-Lapu's warriors, who numbered more than 1,500.
When morning came, forty-nine of us leaped into the water up to our thighs, and walked through water for more than two cross-bow flights before we could reach the shore. The boats could not approach nearer because of certain rocks in the water. The other eleven men remained behind to guard the boats. When we reached land, [the natives] had formed in three divisions to the number of more than one thousand five hundred persons. When they saw us, they charged down upon us with exceeding loud cries... The musketeers and crossbow-men shot from a distance for about a half-hour, but uselessly...[5]
"The Death of Magellan of 1521".
Magellan then tried to scare them off by burning some houses in what is now Buaya, known then as Bulaia.
"Seeing that, the captain-general sent some men to burn their houses in order to terrify them. When they saw their houses burning, they were roused to greater fury. Two of our men were killed near the houses, while we burned twenty or thirty houses. So many of them charged down upon us that they shot the captain through the right leg with a poisoned arrow. On that account, he ordered us to retire slowly, but the men took to flight, except six or eight of us who remained with the captain. The natives shot only at our legs, for the latter were bare; and so many were the spears and stones that they hurled at us, that we could offer no resistance. The mortars in the boats could not aid us as they were too far away.[5]
Many of the warriors attacked Magellan; he was wounded in the arm with a spear and in the leg by a kampilan. With this advantage, Lapu-Lapu's troops finally overpowered and killed Magellan. He was stabbed and hacked by spears and swords. Pigafetta and the others managed to escape,
Recognizing the captain, so many turned upon him that they knocked his helmet off his head twice... An Indian hurled a bamboo spear into the captain's face, but the latter immediately killed him with his lance, which he left in the Indian's body. Then, trying to lay hand on sword, he could draw it out but halfway, because he had been wounded in the arm with a bamboo spear. When the natives saw that, they all hurled themselves upon him. One of them wounded him on the left leg with a large cutlass, which resembles a scimitar, only being larger. That caused the captain to fall face downward, when immediately they rushed upon him with iron and bamboo spears and with their cutlasses, until they killed our mirror, our light, our comfort, and our true guide. When they wounded him, he turned back many times to see whether we were all in the boats. Thereupon, beholding him dead, we, wounded, retreated, as best we could, to the boats, which were already pulling off..."[5]
According to Pigafetta, several of Magellan’s men were killed in battle, and a number of natives converted to Christianity who had come to their aid were killed by warriors. There are no official records of the number of casualties in the battle, although Pigafetta mentions at least 3 Christian soldiers killed including Magellan.[4]
Magellan's allies, Raja Humabon and Datu Zula, were said not to have taken part in the battle due to Magellan's bidding, and they watched from a distance.
Pigafetta reports that the Christian king Raja Humabon sent a message saying that if they returned the bodies of Magellan and his crew, they would be given as much merchandise as they wished. Lapulapu’s immediate response was, “We will not give away the captain’s body for all the riches in the world, because his body is the trophy of our victory against invaders of our shore”
Some of the soldiers who survived the battle and returned to Cebu were poisoned while attending a feast given by Humabon. Magellan was succeeded by Juan Sebastián del Cano as commander of the expedition, who ordered the immediate departure after Humabon's betrayal. Del Cano and his fleet sailed west and returned to Spain in 1522, completing the first circumnavigation of the world.

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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #11 on: 03 April 2013, 05:47:56 AM »
I wonder why Humabon poisoned those soldiers...

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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #12 on: 03 April 2013, 09:46:42 AM »
Glenn

request noted old chap!! sculpting is being undertaken in true
demonic fashion to recapture the images of those conquistadors!
in 28mm :D ;) :o :-* o_o

regards
Ged
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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #13 on: 03 April 2013, 03:14:40 PM »
Glenn

request noted old chap!! sculpting is being undertaken in true
demonic fashion to recapture the images of those conquistadors!
in 28mm :D ;) :o :-* o_o

regards
Ged
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www.gringo40s.blogspot.com
and expanding 28mm ranges

 :)   :-* 

 the More Moros the Merrier...

Gracias,

Glenn

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Re: Death of Magellan
« Reply #14 on: 03 April 2013, 09:38:26 PM »
circumnavigate the globe
Well, if it is about 40,000 km, at 1:56 scale you only need a table 714 km long to play it.

 

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