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Offline Ash

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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #135 on: 20 March 2015, 02:08:08 PM »


This is the only picture I could find of the actual jeep:

(Picture lifted from Pamwe Chete by LtCol R Reid-Daly)

The Unimogs, still adding bits, but here's where I'm at so far:





Thing on the back was a 'home made' 37mm SNEB rocket launcher. Just noticed that the original has six barrels.

(Picture lifted from Pamwe Chete by LtCol R Reid-Daly)
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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #136 on: 20 March 2015, 02:15:37 PM »
Nice! And what's a couple of barrels between friends? lol

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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #137 on: 20 March 2015, 09:24:07 PM »
Still churning out nice pieces. I was in the local hobby store looking at 1/72 kits (I only own 3 Cold War Soviet supply trucks in my whole collection for this scale).

You and SundayHero are luring me with this scale/period.

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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Army
« Reply #138 on: 28 March 2015, 07:43:42 PM »
@ Earther: Exactly, there's no way I'm chopping it down again, already shortened the barrels.
@ Von Lucky: Listen to the voices, buy some tanks to go with the trucks...

Update on the little Selous Scout's column, I've picked up some seated figures; IDF from Elhiem, sanded the helmets down a bit to look more like the WW2 Brit para helmets. There's one who comes with a rather nice MAG. Also got a couple of sticks worth of IDF grunts to convert into SADF Parabats at some time. Rest of the crew are Elheim pilots, a Green Beret (comes with beard) & an RLI bloke from Under Fire






Swapped the twin .50cals for twin MAG



Found these pics of a Selous Scout version of the Rhodesian army MAP transport




So picked up another Crocodile MPV from Shaun at S&S, attacked it with contents of toolbox, ended up with this:





Not quite the same, I couldn't face trying to shorten the front.

All together:
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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #139 on: 28 March 2015, 08:43:52 PM »
If it's any help, there were French M1951 and US M1 helmets in use too. The French one is being modelled by the guy in the top b&w photo.

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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #140 on: 28 March 2015, 09:04:28 PM »
Cheers Arlequin, plenty of the old SADF M63 in the mix as well. I can't think of any minis with those French helmets. There must be some Foreign Legion figures wearing them?
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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #141 on: 29 March 2015, 09:15:13 AM »
They were more iconic of the Algerian War than Indochina. However essentially it is the same dimensions as the M1, but with a somewhat shorter 'brim' at the front. A man of your capabilities should have no trouble filing back an M1 a little. The South African M63 was based on the French helmet and I think you'd have to be a real helmet geek to be able to tell them apart.

I've seen a photo of the RLI on 'conventional war training' in the early '70s with M1s... but only M1951s (or M63s?) on the RAR.

Motorcycle helmets are another option, but I've only seen those on photos of paratroops... and of course captured Soviet M-40 helmets for the Selous Scouts on 'externals' although figures depicted wearing them might be as rare as those in the French one.

The only ones I'm aware of that weren't used were the WWII 'Battle Bowler' and 'Turtle', which I'm led to believe were in stocks for BSAP riot control. Having said that I'm sure I've seen a photo from the early-'60s with RLI in 'Turtles'.

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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #142 on: 30 March 2015, 12:05:37 AM »
Wow!!!!great conversions. Spot on!!

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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #143 on: 30 March 2015, 12:08:40 AM »
Awesome thread, love it.

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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #144 on: 30 March 2015, 08:56:19 AM »
Just found this thread, don't know how I've missed it ! You have very similar interests to me, you need a converted bus for your Scout column, ready for Op. Virile  ;) Dougie

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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #145 on: 11 April 2015, 05:50:57 PM »
@ Arlequin: I picked up some Under Fire modern Russians, for conversion bits, one of them has a great helmet that looks just the job for a moterbike crash helmet. Be nice to try and make a model of a bloke 'just landed', still in harness blatting away with his 9mm...

@ Jurgen, Gunner: Cheers chaps, I'm still after some more bodies to add to this lot.

I made this bloke out of left over bits (Head from S&S/ torso from UnderFire/ belt down from TQD). I was going to stick him in one of the trucks, but liked him enough to get his own base.



@ Dougie: A bus would be a great addition, I've seen pictures of the one you have in mind. Will have to keep an eye out for something suitable.
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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #146 on: 11 April 2015, 09:25:28 PM »
When you game with these beauties of yours ,what rules do you use?

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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #147 on: 25 May 2015, 11:22:04 PM »
@ Jurgen:  I've got the Force on Force books, but not got to roll dice yet....

Been slowly putting together a Selous Scout column, all the trucks etc are from S&S and will get added to as the new releases  come out:















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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #148 on: 26 May 2015, 10:28:42 PM »
Great stuff Ash ,I especially love the selous scout vehicles.

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Re: 20mm Rhodesian Fireforce (Under Fire miniatures)
« Reply #149 on: 27 May 2015, 07:26:01 AM »
Wow! ! They came out great! Superb weathering!! :-* :-* :-*

 

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