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Author Topic: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?  (Read 9475 times)

Offline Atheling

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Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« on: August 07, 2013, 08:57:48 AM »
Hi all,

A friend of mine has offered me a copy of Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Philip J. Haythornthwaite which I'm thinking of buying as I plan to do a Retreat from Moscow skirmish demo at some point soon and i was wondering if any of you could let me know how useful it might be?

Darrell.

Offline huevans

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2013, 09:44:47 PM »
It's a very solid basic resource for facings colours, etc. Worth having.

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2013, 10:16:38 PM »
I'll offer an enthusiastic second to the recommendation. I have a very well-thumbed 37 year-old copy that I still consult regularly.

Rick

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2013, 01:40:59 AM »
Definately worth getting, plenty of uniform info and the plates are superb. I was lucky enough to pick mine up from a second hand bookshop for £3.20

Offline Brian Smaller

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2013, 09:25:56 PM »
I have been looking for a copy for years. Nostalgia value if nothing else. I would get it. You won't regret it.

Offline grant

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2013, 05:47:24 PM »
I've got one, it's very handy.
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Offline Patrice

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2013, 10:43:46 AM »
I don't know the book. You'll probably also need a book on Russian civilian clothes of this period that could have been stolen in Moscow to wear against the cold, and a book about torn uniforms :D lol


Offline Atheling

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 08:51:34 PM »
I don't know the book. You'll probably also need a book on Russian civilian clothes of this period that could have been stolen in Moscow to wear against the cold, and a book about torn uniforms :D lol



Yep, I'm beginning to realize that  lol.

By the way, do you have any more pics like the one above? If so, i'd love to see them.

Darrell.

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 09:02:48 PM »
as I plan to do a Retreat from Moscow skirmish demo at some point soon
Perry 28mm I expect ;)

but do have a look at Sash And Sabers 40mm range LINK scroll down
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Offline Atheling

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2013, 11:00:33 PM »
Perry 28mm I expect ;)

but do have a look at Sash And Sabers 40mm range LINK scroll down

Thanks Shaun. There are certainly some usable mini's on their site- I like the idea of the angry peasants, the cart and the wolves. Of course the dead and wounded will come in handy if Alan doesn't get around to doing some.

Darrell.

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2013, 06:08:43 AM »
Guys the book arrived and to my eyes at least there are a lot of uniforms to absorb and a few very nice pics of the French retreating.

Should be a great start  :cool:  :cool: .

Darrell.

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2013, 09:10:08 AM »
and a few very nice pics of the French retreating.
So you have some pics of what they looked like… ::)

You could also ask "Cuprum" who often posts in the LAF BoB section, he knows many Russian sources. I think I had seen another painting in a Moscow museum.

French sources, and later descriptions (sometimes exagerated) describe soldiers covered with civilian coats, pelisses, women's scarves and fur collars, etc.



Ooooh beware or you'll end up with "a frozen starving beggar band" instead of an army, as in the song. lol



Offline Atheling

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2013, 10:46:55 AM »
So you have some pics of what they looked like… ::)

You could also ask "Cuprum" who often posts in the LAF BoB section, he knows many Russian sources. I think I had seen another painting in a Moscow museum.

French sources, and later descriptions (sometimes exagerated) describe soldiers covered with civilian coats, pelisses, women's scarves and fur collars, etc.



Ooooh beware or you'll end up with "a frozen starving beggar band" instead of an army, as in the song. lol

Many thanks  8) 8) 8).

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 lol lol Ah, Dire Straights now you are trying to torture me  lol lol

Darrell.

Offline Atheling

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Re: Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow, 1812, Worth buying?
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2013, 10:50:55 AM »
Thanks Carl,

Do you know if the book has many drawings in colour specific to the Retreat from Moscow??

Darrell.




http://livres.histoireetcollections.com/en/publication/2878/the-crossing-of-the-berezina-a-victory-during-the-retreat.html

you could try this ?

Carl

 

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