The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread

[Sir_Theo]

TheDark Imperium box is very impressive. I like the models and the rulebook is packed full of stuff. Even the dice are nicer than normal...bit I was surprised that there wasn't a starter mini campaign /tutorial in there like in previous boxes. Or did I miss it?

[Dr Mathias]

I always tell people...Games Workshop has never written a brilliant rule set.  They've made a lot of fun ones, but no one has ever read a rule set from GW and thought "this is technically brilliant!".  Never, ever.

I'd say Space Hulk is a candidate for a brilliant rules set, along with Battlefleet Gothic. The problems with those sets arrived with the add-ons and supplements.

I made the mistake of buying my 40K 8th book from the GW website. Naturally, it hasn't arrived yet.

[Daeothar]

If you're talking about the somewhat bizarre Battle of Vedros set...it happened, kinda?

It was a re-hash of old starter set plastics (Battle for Black Reach?) molded in coloured plastic - though some weren't?  Anyway, they planned on selling this in non-game stores.  When they announced it in the US they mentioned places like Hobby Town USA, even Ace Hardware.  I don't think it ever caught on.  You can find the stuff on eBay etc. but it's actually quite pricey.  I was excited at the prospect of cheap GW stuff I could pick up for my nephew, but it never really happened.

That's what I feared, yes. I had the same hopes (and exactly the same motivation as it turns out), but never saw a single set in the wild...

[v_lazy_dragon]

Last time I was in Antics Bristol they had some of the Vedros sets. I didn't see the prices...

[Steve F]

Yes, but no one has ever read a rule set from GW and thought "this is technically brilliant!".  Never, ever.

Warmaster - in particular the initiative system - was both ingenious and hugely influential.

[Hupp n at em]

Warmaster - in particular the initiative system - was both ingenious and hugely influential.

Yep, see the "_______ commander" series. 

[Daeothar]

Warmaster - in particular the initiative system - was both ingenious and hugely influential.

And I've recently acquired a copy of Man O'War (still in transit), of which I hear nothing but good things...

[Dr Mathias]

Warmaster - in particular the initiative system - was both ingenious and hugely influential.

That was a seriously fun game, and great machanics. I didn't play it much for lack of opponents so I forgot about it

[Gibby]

Infuriating though it can be, I consider Blood Bowl to be a brilliant ruleset.

[steders]

Spacehulk. Fantastic game. After a couple of turns its second nature.

Sorry Elbows, this seems to turning into 'what have GW ever done for us?'

[Mason]

Infuriating though it can be, I consider Blood Bowl to be a brilliant ruleset.

If you mean 3rd edition, then I am with you with this one.
It had its faults when abused, but which ruleset is above players 'breaking; it?
Very clever dynamics.

[JamesValentine]

Warmaster - in particular the initiative system - was both ingenious and hugely influential.

agreed...probably why it died so quickly. GW fans hate ingenuity.
though its later incarnation in war of the ring was a joke.

[Lovejoy]

That's what I feared, yes. I had the same hopes (and exactly the same motivation as it turns out), but never saw a single set in the wild...

The Vedros stuff is widely available in 'Game' stores - the video games chain.

[nic-e]

They've done something similar to vedros with the new thunder and blood set for age of sigmar.
the named characters are available separate (but not the lord relictor... )  and for £50 you get the troops, two lesser heros, a play mat and the box folds out into scenery (more of these please!new players need to understand that terrain is not optional! )
 
Along with the spire of dawn box that makes 3 old starter boxes brought bac into circulation as cheaper starting points for new players . I also have a suspicion that we may see the new official age of sigmar starter box around autumn,when the second generals handbook drops.

[TWD]

agreed...probably why it died so quickly. GW fans hate ingenuity.
though its later incarnation in war of the ring was a joke.

Warmaster was released in 2000 and sale of official miniatures ended in 2013. That hardly qualifies as "quickly"
But thanks for surveying all the GW fans and discovering we don't like innovation. I wonder then what it is about the game that attracted me to it? 

Warmaster performed exactly as such GW games were expected to at that time. Initial high interest and excitement followed by rapid decline to a small but dedicated rump of enthusiasts. The were designed to fill the gap years between the "Big Box" game releases.