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Offline Elbows

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11715 on: January 10, 2022, 04:20:02 PM »
They're available on eBay at above-MSRP if you're desperate.  While I want a box, I'm not feeding that machine.  I'll wait and if it shows up at a normal price/discount I'll grab a box. 
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Offline nozza_uk

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11716 on: January 10, 2022, 05:32:53 PM »
They're available on eBay at above-MSRP if you're desperate.  While I want a box, I'm not feeding that machine.  I'll wait and if it shows up at a normal price/discount I'll grab a box.

I'm the same. Not desperate for them, but if they become available again I'll grab a box. Was going to use them as perps for Dredd that's all.

Offline Duncan McDane

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11717 on: January 22, 2022, 11:53:06 AM »
Looks like the new strategy of GW isreleasing an initial one-off print for their specialist games / boxed sets and afterwards splitting them up into smaller parts which of course mean a hefty price increase if you total it up compared to the original box. Hive Scum, their Necromunda set. Now sold as a single sprue instead of the original box of 3 identical sprues. lol
The same they did with the slave Ogryns. And their "new" Kill Team starter has been split up between the models and the terrain.
Really, of course they can do whatever they want, but they' have to do so without me. I'll get their basic games when they are first released and that's it. Maybe another gang to game with if I like the models but for the rest, no bloody way. Plenty of other games and manufacturers to send my money to.
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Offline Mammoth miniatures

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11718 on: January 23, 2022, 08:11:15 PM »
Looks like the new strategy of GW isreleasing an initial one-off print for their specialist games / boxed sets and afterwards splitting them up into smaller parts which of course mean a hefty price increase if you total it up compared to the original box. Hive Scum, their Necromunda set. Now sold as a single sprue instead of the original box of 3 identical sprues. lol
The same they did with the slave Ogryns. And their "new" Kill Team starter has been split up between the models and the terrain.
Really, of course they can do whatever they want, but they' have to do so without me. I'll get their basic games when they are first released and that's it. Maybe another gang to game with if I like the models but for the rest, no bloody way. Plenty of other games and manufacturers to send my money to.

I was initially a bit miffed at them splitting the hive scum box, But then I realized that A: I only really want two or three of those minis. B: I'm never going to paint them anyway, and C: I can now get them for less than a tenner from goblin games.


Offline Belligerentparrot

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11719 on: January 23, 2022, 10:34:58 PM »
Yeah, I recall some folk on here complaining you just get three of the same sprue (not enough variation for 12 minis) when the box of 12 was coming out. I conclude either one or both of two things have happened: a) GW have really screwed this release up, or b) it is impossible to please all of the people all of the time   lol

I did get the box of 12, and to be honest I would have been fine with one or two sprues. I guess this new box of 4 kinda replaces the old Chaos cultist box of 5 as a relatively cheap way to get a few henchmen minis. I do miss that cultist box though, it was just excellent.

Offline Duncan McDane

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11720 on: January 24, 2022, 10:58:58 AM »

I did get the box of 12, and to be honest I would have been fine with one or two sprues. I guess this new box of 4 kinda replaces the old Chaos cultist box of 5 as a relatively cheap way to get a few henchmen minis. I do miss that cultist box though, it was just excellent.

I really was hoping for those Underhive Scumbags until they released those 4...  :?
The cultists, I snatched up a couple of extra boxes of 5, because they're such great and useful figs. But they have been OOP'd or just mailorder only?

Offline Belligerentparrot

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11721 on: January 24, 2022, 01:36:50 PM »
Pretty sure they're OOP now. Such a shame as they were so versatile. I wish I'd nabbed a couple more boxes when I had the chance.

Offline jetengine

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11722 on: January 25, 2022, 07:31:07 AM »
Looks like the new strategy of GW isreleasing an initial one-off print for their specialist games / boxed sets and afterwards splitting them up into smaller parts which of course mean a hefty price increase if you total it up compared to the original box. Hive Scum, their Necromunda set. Now sold as a single sprue instead of the original box of 3 identical sprues. lol
The same they did with the slave Ogryns. And their "new" Kill Team starter has been split up between the models and the terrain.
Really, of course they can do whatever they want, but they' have to do so without me. I'll get their basic games when they are first released and that's it. Maybe another gang to game with if I like the models but for the rest, no bloody way.

 Plenty of other games and manufacturers to send my money to.

The question is, how long can they squeeze before it becomes too much ?

Offline Elbows

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11723 on: January 25, 2022, 05:39:24 PM »
Yeah, it looks like they're pulling the same silliness they did with the Necromunda Ogryns (remember the box of six for $60...that became a box of two for $40?)

I snagged a box of the Outcasts, but I need to source some heads and bits to make them what I want.  Fortunately I don't think I'll need more than the twelve.  Probably my last GW purchase for...ever?  I have my two opposing Necromunda warbands now, so I'm more or less done.  I suppose I might snag an Underworld box in the future - as their warbands occasionally intrigue me for my dungeon crawls.

Offline Belligerentparrot

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11724 on: January 28, 2022, 10:05:19 PM »
Ash Wastes stuff is coming for Necromunda this year, and Eldar Pirates coming for 40k. This is good news! Can't say I'm excited about vehicle rules for Necro, but if we get a decent Nomads box I'll be very happy.

The one Eldar Corsair previewed so far looks ace to me (except for the bird, but that is easily removed).

Offline Sir_Theo

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11725 on: January 28, 2022, 10:52:07 PM »
That Corsair does look nice. I'm not really a fan of the Avatar (although he is suitably big) but the Maugan Ra I am a fan of.

Offline Elbows

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11726 on: January 28, 2022, 11:02:28 PM »
I'm not feeling the Maugan Ra, personally.  Not that it's a bad sculpt...it just doesn't feel like Maugan Ra to me.  Not heavy enough, no skeleton boots, and I don't need the hood/cloak.  He feels more like a Harlequin Death Jester.  I think it's a shame since he's one of my favourite Phoenix Lords and thus far they've done well keeping to the Goodwin aesthetic.  He just looks a bit "emo" for me.

Also...general criticism of the entire range thus far...can we not be standing on slabs of rock?  Every single friggin' model...

Avatar is spot on for an Avatar (though weirdly painted by the studio with a bleeding...wrist instead of a proper bloody hand?)  I don't play 40K anymore, but I assume he may finally get rules making him suitably awesome, instead of his watered down garbage rules which were solely tied to his old model being small.

Shining Spears look fine, nothing special - helmets could have been cooler.  They're quite boring.  However, for the first time...ever(?) there will be suitable plastic bits for kit-bashing amongst all the kits.

Offline Sir_Theo

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11727 on: January 29, 2022, 09:49:47 AM »
In general the Eldarodels feel very safe- just modern versions of the old designs. As I like the old designs I'm ok with that, but itnsort of feels like an opportunity missed.

Also it doesn't affect me as I have a load of original Jes Goodwin Eldar and I'm not going to get any of the new stuff.

Offline Major_Gilbear

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11728 on: January 29, 2022, 02:28:16 PM »
On the whole, I'm very pleased with the new Eldar stuff from a design point of view - some subtle tweaks and updates to old classics, and more options added to the kits that have been missing from the older boxes for years. I even rather like the new Maugan Ra, even if he's a bit different and standing very oddly on some convoluted scenery...

I think the Avatar is surprisingly "meh" though; rather than different heads and weapons, I'd rather the kit had some different arms and legs, so that everyone's model could be posed a bit differently (and frankly, different weapons and heads would have been perfect for Forgeworld to offer!). I also think the model's proportions look a bit squat, and the bloody hand seems to be dripping blood from his cuff instead? Yeah, this one's a missed opportunity I'm afraid, and especially a shame after the truly stunning work on the most recent greater daemon models like the Keeper of Secrets. Ah well.

However, I expect that all these are almost certainly going to be far too expensive to tempt me, and come years (at least a decade!) too late; I think these models will really only be of serious interest to players who don't already have an Eldar collection, although I expect that the Phoenix Lords and Avatar will probably please lots of those players too (which is good!).

Offline jetengine

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #11729 on: January 29, 2022, 03:13:25 PM »
I'm not feeling the Maugan Ra, personally.  Not that it's a bad sculpt...it just doesn't feel like Maugan Ra to me.  Not heavy enough, no skeleton boots, and I don't need the hood/cloak.  He feels more like a Harlequin Death Jester.  I think it's a shame since he's one of my favourite Phoenix Lords and thus far they've done well keeping to the Goodwin aesthetic.  He just looks a bit "emo" for me.

Also...general criticism of the entire range thus far...can we not be standing on slabs of rock?  Every single friggin' model...

Avatar is spot on for an Avatar (though weirdly painted by the studio with a bleeding...wrist instead of a proper bloody hand?)  I don't play 40K anymore, but I assume he may finally get rules making him suitably awesome, instead of his watered down garbage rules which were solely tied to his old model being small.

Shining Spears look fine, nothing special - helmets could have been cooler.  They're quite boring.  However, for the first time...ever(?) there will be suitable plastic bits for kit-bashing amongst all the kits.

Pretty sure that Maugan Ra is them lazily recycling the Death  Jester CAD, similar pose as well iirc

 

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