The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread

[matthais-mouse]

It doesn't really matter if it is 6" or 8" it really comes down to girth and how you use it.

That is what I have been told anyways....

I wont lie, since this is the first post of this page it made me think I had opened the wrong thread..... 

As for the new knight, I dont like it as its going down the route of 'bigger is better' which I do not like, forge world was always the one for the more specialist gear. Games workshop need to go back to when they had reasonable games and rules, especially the specialist games range ( i was a few weeks away from starting battlefleet gothic when they pulled the miniatures and the prices sky rocketted on ebay  )

However I do still like their fluff and background/history and still model various aspects of both fantasy and 40,000. But I do buy online at giftsforgeeks.co.uk to get my stuff cheaper.

[FramFramson]

News from a friend:

I hadn't done any research on the 40k MMO because it is an MMO in alpha and this is not my first rodeo, but I dug up an interview from last summer and apparently they're going to make the Orks the Free 2 Play faction, which is the best MMO-related idea I've heard in years

Holy shit! That's bloody brilliant if true.  

[Vermis]

So orks are likely to outnumber all other factions and possibly attract a greater number of idle griefers and all the other dregs of the internet.

Very appropriate. Should be fun. Can I be a Bad Moon?

[pixelgeek]

How about we all start to say what we DO like about GW?

Your post sounds like what you liked about what GW was.

If you were a part of that "golden age" of GW gaming then the current company is a grand disappointment. Its like going back to see your teenage sweetheart and finding out that she is a scab-encrusted prostitute.

GW does quite a lot of things right, at least in terms of their game background and miniatures, but it has erected this paywall that effectively keeps most people out.

Which is probably why we still complain. They make some great toys and a great universe but make it too difficult to play.

[beefcake]

So orks are likely to outnumber all other factions and possibly attract a greater number of idle griefers and all the other dregs of the internet.

Very appropriate. Should be fun. Can I be a Bad Moon?

You got that right, just like orcs should be.

[Mason]

Your post sounds like what you liked about what GW was.

If you were a part of that "golden age" of GW gaming then the current company is a grand disappointment. Its like going back to see your teenage sweetheart and finding out that she is a scab-encrusted prostitute.

GW does quite a lot of things right, at least in terms of their game background and miniatures, but it has erected this paywall that effectively keeps most people out.

Which is probably why we still complain. They make some great toys and a great universe but make it too difficult to play.

Pretty much sums up the way I feel about GW NOW.

Although to be fair, they do still produce some good stuff, it is just that, as time goes by, they do it less often.

In the 'Golden Age' I liked pretty much everything, and still do.
Nowadys there is less and less that I like.

I do still use their scenery and think most of their Fantasy stuff is good (not so keen on the 40k stuff) and still fancy the occasional figure, but the last of their figures that I acquired (not from them at their prices, I have to add) were the Ghouls and one of the Giant Ghoul-things, but that was over a year ago.

I also lament the loss of their old range of washes, as I LOVED them.
 

The only thing that I buy regularly now are the Horus Heresy novels as I am really enjoying them.

Enough to make me want to paint all my old skool 40k figures soon (ish)...

[Cubs]

I also lament the loss of their old range of washes, as I LOVED them.
 

I loved the old Devlan Mud and have recreated it using inks mixed with Vallejo's black and brown glazes. Their glazes are the same sort of consistency as paints, but are much more slippery and translucent.

[zemjw]

According to Dakkadakka (and I've seen the same information in other places), the old washes are the same as certain Army Painter ones. From the Dakkadakka site

Citadel	Army Painter
Gryphone	Soft Tone ink
Devlan	Strong Tone ink
Badab black	Dark Tone ink

I have looked for Strong Tone a couple of times, but haven't found a bottle yet, so can't comment on the validity of the above table

edit: a review of the army painter stuff can be found at Tale Of Painters

[Cubs]

No, they're definitely not. The inks are just that - inks. They are what I used to mix with the glazes to get the same effect as the old washes, with that slippery feel that worked so well.

[carlos13th]

I think they are the same for colour but not constancy.

[Too Bo Coo]

I think they are the same for colour but not constancy.

I agree, close to the same colors, but not the same consistency.  The AP stuff I like a bit better.  It's nice to do outlining work.  Also note, the AP inks are very close in color to their 'dip' counterparts, but they are VERY different products.

[Cubs]

The Strong Tone is brown ink.

The Dark Tone is very very dark brown, almost black.

From what I recall, Devlan Mud was somewhere inbetween, but I confess my memory may well be mistaken.

[Dr.Falkenhayn]

nope they aren't the same:Gryphone Sepia is much more yellowish than AP Soft Tone.
AP Strong Tone is darker than Devlan Mud
AP Dark Tone is very equally to Badab Black though

i moved to the Washes from Secret Weapon-never looked back 

[Too Bo Coo]

The Strong Tone is brown ink.

The Dark Tone is very very dark brown, almost black.

From what I recall, Devlan Mud was somewhere inbetween, but I confess my memory may well be mistaken.

Exactly!  I think the colors are meant to correspond to the Dip Shades as much as they could.

[Vermis]

The only thing that I buy regularly now are the Horus Heresy novels as I am really enjoying them.

Ayup. Picked up the latest Eisenhorn/Ravenor book on Tuesday. Still waiting for Lords of Mars to turn up in paperback.