The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread

[matthais-mouse]

It's a piece of shit.

Couldn't agree more unfortunately. ...

[Diakon]

Admitting that the size of the old Nagash head was ridiculous, I'd still like one pulling a cheesy grin. Then I might buy it.  It's the same reason I love the 2nd edition Hive Tyrant. I love a a massive cheesy grin on a miniature. 

[Argonor]

Admitting that the size of the old Nagash head was ridiculous,

What's the whole point of Nagash being a giant, anyway? I remember a game with undeads vs. empire; first turn the empire player shot and killed Nagash with his cannon, making the undead army wither away as a consequence... VERY fun game... (I didn't participate)

[weismonsters]

We need an official Nagash discussion thread. I think we can make 100 pages on that one too if we try.

[Diakon]

We need an official Nagash discussion thread. I think we can make 100 pages on that one too if we try.

Easy. 

[matthais-mouse]

What's the whole point of Nagash being a giant, anyway? I remember a game with undeads vs. empire; first turn the empire player shot and killed Nagash with his cannon, making the undead army wither away as a consequence... VERY fun game... (I didn't participate)

I was thinking this myself, isnt he meant to be just a standard size human? Plus if it is implying hes a giant, where the hell did a 'warhammer' get the intelligence to become the worlds best necromancer and what not?

[beefcake]

In the old 3rd ed(?) army book I have, if I remember correctly he ate loads of warp stone (why,  ) that mutated him to large size.

[Vermis]

I think there's some fluff about all the magic infusing his body that caused him to grow bigger (though maybe not giant-sized) as well as wither him into a boney liche. (Edit: Aye, what Beefcake said) To be honest it doesn't bother me that much, especially when one of his other features is his ability to reconstitute himself from a few particles of dust or ashes after several centuries*, and even though the answer boils down to something that usually pees me off:

A wizard did it.  

Argonor: One of the things I gather about 8th ed is that cannons are overpowered, both slaughtering monsters and sniping characters etc. So it doesn't entirely matter how big he is in that regard. Though from what I also gather of the sneak-peek at Nagash's new WD rules, one of his cheesy bucketload of special rules negates that to some degree.

*Although, of course, he is Warhammer's Not-Sauron.

[beefcake]

I think the best mini I have seen that would suit Nagash is the cmon lich king. Unfortunately that was limited production and I've never seen it being resold  also an old heartbreaker model being sold at ral partha Europe looks quite cool as a proxy.

[Vermis]

Someone at Dakka posted pics of someone else's Golden Demon entry as an example of a superior Nagash design. This 'un:



http://www.puttyandpaint.com/projects/796

Bit necron-y in places, for my tastes, but makes Boney Boring-Pose McGoombahead look like the shoddy effort it is.

[nic-e]

i kind of like mantics mhorgoth the faceless as an imposing but not overly large nagash substitute.stick him on a base of rising skeletal hordes and have that magical energy extend around them and BAM! large centerpiece without needing a  giant figure. (although he was their nagash, who was gw's sauron )

[westwaller]

Don't thump me everyone but...There is room for MORE SKULLZ!! Loads of room on that Nagash.

I was thinking the other day about whatever 'golden era' you choose, for Citadel and Games Workshop miniatures, the stuff was never consistently good. So if you think about the lovely Perry Brettonians, they were out at the same time as the argueably crap 'new' chunkier, Orcs. When Orcs became less gnarly and more 'comedy' Actually I think GW have never really nailed the sculpting of Orcs. There has always been some good ones and a lot of 'meh' ones. That is a different discussion though...  

Could 'The Hobby' survive without GW though? Without them miniatures and wargames become a bit more niche don't they? Even with GamesWarlordshop. 

[Cubs]

A wizard did it.  

"Whenever something like that happens, it's because a wizard did it!"

[Modhail]

Well, that is also a rather apt synopsis of the most recent shareholder's preamble, isn't it?

[Vermis]

Cubs, Modhail:

Nic-e: Yes! That's a good 'un.

Westwaller: with all those other bones on him I'm kinda surprised that GW were relatively conservative with the skulls. He has fewer than the average space marine captain! They could've taken it just a smidge further as the ultimate statement about their design philosophy and make him the skulliest skull who ever skulled a skull. Skull.