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Prof. Dinglebat. Phd.

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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #195 on: 22 June 2014, 01:59:37 PM »
I've got that one. Still in the box though, so I can't tell you what the kit's like. I bet Peter@BattleScape has got one made though?

So you think it qualifies for pulp in a pulpy kinda way?... I'm wondering if it's too close to ww2 for a main character's ride in a game?  :?

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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #196 on: 22 June 2014, 03:03:20 PM »
I'm scoping this at the moment, but wondering does it qualify as a mainstream pulp. First made in 1935 Canadian ?

Absolutely not.  Can't possibly even approach the realm of True Pulp.  Amazed you even had to ask.

So you think it qualifies for pulp in a pulpy kinda way?... I'm wondering ~~

Stop attempting tasks above your pay grade.  Please.

This is NOT Pulp, can't be PULP,  but... is not entirely UN-PULPish... so your error may be forgiven.

Actually, upon further reflection, we need prevent this from happening again to others equally challenged.

Purchase it at once, and have it shipped to me for proper disposal.

Then your conscience can rest easy and your mind remain clear for further searches.

You will bask in the knowledge you have removed erroneous temptation from our Pulpverse.


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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #197 on: 22 June 2014, 05:51:11 PM »
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I'm wondering if it's too close to ww2 for a main character's ride in a game?

Go for it Prof! My rule is, if it's got floats it's Pulp!

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Purchase it at once, and have it shipped to me for proper disposal.

Valerik, nice to know we have an environmentally sound policy on non-Pulp item disposal!  ;)
« Last Edit: 22 June 2014, 05:52:50 PM by Mad Lord Snapcase »


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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #198 on: 22 June 2014, 06:44:44 PM »
Go for it Prof! My rule is, if it's got floats it's Pulp!

Rules are made to be broken, this one's all wet...



Float Staggerwing Beech, beached!!

& afloat..





& atop



(though those are skis...)

Can't have a Pulp 'plane without an aviatrix right?



I couldn't find a still of Myrna Loy piloting hers in 1938's Too Hot To Handle,..
When I saw her swoop down towards Clark Gable & grease that float Model 17 onto the Amazonian river...  WOW!!!!
...almost a trouser filling experience...

or a femme fatale inna hot car



no Staggerwing, but a nice mix of pulpy floaters


Valerik, nice to know we have an environmentally sound policy on non-Pulp item disposal!

No bother at all Old Boy, one must do one's bit 'round here, keep up the standards.
Might suggest you check your OWN closet for offending articles.

You wouldn't actually need to Come OUT, y'know, just hand 'em through the open door to Old Scrotum...

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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #199 on: 22 June 2014, 08:14:57 PM »
I'm heading to A.C. Moore this week to pick up a grab bag of balsa, I will scratch build some suitable planes for my game. Pictures will be provided.

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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #200 on: 22 June 2014, 08:48:58 PM »
....
or a femme fatale inna hot car

....

Both the staggerwing and a hot car are available in 1/48;




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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #201 on: 22 June 2014, 08:50:10 PM »
....
& atop



(though those are skis...)

That arctic explorer truck screams Pulp and deserves a topic of its own!

Prof. Dinglebat. Phd.

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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #202 on: 23 June 2014, 12:41:09 AM »
I guess what I'm trying to determine,...is when it comes to machinery, is there a cut off date to what would class as 'Pulp' or not, and if so, what is it and what therefore qualifies? Or is it just the look of the thing that determines it. What would qualify as a Pulp aircraft in the pics below? And if there is a distinction between what qualifies and what doesn't based on a cut off date, does the aircraft depicted by the model (Pic 5) get in, and if it doesn't, would it still get in on it's look ?

Ps. Pity the last two pics are only 1/72 scale  :'(
« Last Edit: 23 June 2014, 12:49:17 AM by Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. »

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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #203 on: 23 June 2014, 04:01:43 AM »
I guess what I'm trying to determine,...is when it comes to machinery, is there a cut off date to what would class as 'Pulp' or not, and if so, what is it and what therefore qualifies? Or is it just the look of the thing that determines it. What would qualify as a Pulp aircraft in the pics below? And if there is a distinction between what qualifies and what doesn't based on a cut off date, does the aircraft depicted by the model (Pic 5) get in, and if it doesn't, would it still get in on it's look ?

Prof, for me it's gotta pass the Ol' Mk I Eyeball Exam: Look right, probably IS right.

In my mind's eye that's a BROAD curve, a few LATE Great War up to some 1942~ish ones... so basically Interwar designs.

WW I aircraft were built for a lifespan of weeks, months at most, kinda like the vaunted WW II Jeep!!
This is NOT to say they were poorly, or improperly constructed, some soldiered on for years. a few still fly today.
Aviation was in its infancy, training brief at best, crashes frequent, design flaws discovered daily, improvements constant, engines got bigger, & more reliable, fabric & cladding stuck on better,AND folks were shooting at you!!

The Douglas World Cruiser (#7) used floats or wheels depending on the leg it was flying.
It's cutting edge 1924 technology, streets ahead of WW I, but eclipsed as soon as it made history.
The '50s stuff, like your Cessna (#1) doesn't work for me, too close to NOW.

Gotta realize though, that throughout this 25ish year period, aviation's Golden Age, there were vast design differences  from tried n'true to sleek n'swift to Holy Crap!! The latter encompasses both positive & negative instances of genius &/or folly.

BIG ROUND ENGINES-always popular for Pulp, sadly now a mere memory, or a restoration.
Many, many engines, & push-pull configurations = highly Pulpy, Your Cant (#8) works very nicely!!
BIG engines, BIG control surfaces, low payloads hallmark our Pulp technology.
Your Norseman (#5) is Spot ON , as I'd hoped my earlier, facetious comments would indicate.

Pointy turbo engines are a nogo, jets & rockets are sci-fi highly experimental jobs, fantasy really.

Propellers are 2 bladed for the vast majority of kites, mostly wood, some metal, 3 & 4 blades uncommon, but not absent.

Open cockpits, not a requirement, but a good indicator.  Open cockpit + enclosed passenger cabin Oh Yeah!!
Cabin capacity from 2-12 pretty much the limit, 20 passenger or more planes are BIG, & New.

Seaplanes & floatplanes-much more useful in our period when few paved runways existed in civilized countries.
Worlwide, water was the way to explore a country absent airfields from the air, since open, tree free level spots were sparse, & suspect.

Autogyros-ONLY existed for Pulp!!  Like early helicopters they had trouble lifting themselves, much less a payload!

For landplanes, tail draggers virtually exclusively, tricycle gear requires prepared, manicured runways.
Grass airfields are the norm, paved or tarmac runways were uncommon until the rise of scheduled air transport in the 30's.

In your pictures there are several exceptions to Snappy's Rule: 1, 2, 4, & 6 are all clearly too modern, though they do posses floats.  The turboprop engines are a dead giveaway on the Otter & Vikings, the Cessna is  a post-war design still going strong today.

THIS is PURE Pulp, to a T!!  Great find!!   Über Pulp!!




Hope these tips point you to better Pulpier air travel & Adventure worldwide!!

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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #204 on: 23 June 2014, 04:35:28 AM »
or a femme fatale inna hot car



I think you just lit the Blackwolf signal.  lol


Prof, for me it's gotta pass the Ol' Mk I Eyeball Exam: Look right, probably IS right.

In my mind's eye that's a BROAD curve, a few LATE Great War up to some 1942~ish ones... so basically Interwar designs.

"Tell me more about th' curves on dem broads, mac."
« Last Edit: 23 June 2014, 04:47:30 AM by FramFramson »


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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #205 on: 23 June 2014, 06:15:04 AM »
Yes there are some little biases in my post, but put there for a reason. I do have in my mind's eye a fair indication of things I would consider reflects 'Pulp' (I think we all do, being so engrossed in it as we all are here) In fact there's not much that falls out of my black and white and into the grey, but this particular aircraft did. To me it looked too much like a Beaver aircraft which I would not consider to be pulp, (Feel free to convert me if you disagree) The fact that it comes on floats, (as well as wheels) in the kit, was swaying me in the direction of what Snappy said, that if it's got floats it's a goer. Though I hasten to update that, with some of the pics I found in the search clearly not qualifying as I'm sure we're all agreed.

No this one threw me. It's got floats and wheels, made in 1936, (which is cutting it fine as far as 'The Golden Age' of aviation is concerned) but still qualifies for the period,...yet despite this didn't quite have 'That Look' that was needed in convincing me.

So I bought it anyway. Especially since it now has approval and acceptance from those that I consider highly proficient in this field, so thank you for that.

I'm now going to paint it stealth black so it can fly my main characters into areas like the middle east and not be detected.  ;D
« Last Edit: 23 June 2014, 06:56:21 AM by Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. »

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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #206 on: 23 June 2014, 06:38:02 AM »
Moving on from my above post, here's my WIP so far on my latest. Adele Blanc-Sec's private aircraft I'm calling 'The Pink Lady.' Not sure of the final colour scheme yet, may do the tail in aluminium silver like the engine cover along with the wheel covers. I need to find a suitable decal (Yes decal because I learned many many years ago that their not stickers  :D ) that will give it that golden era look.

Will add more pics when it's finally finished.  ;)

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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #207 on: 23 June 2014, 06:42:02 AM »
I think the First Rule of Pulp Planes has been developed here. Both Valerik and the Prof. have said it's got to have THE LOOK and I think they're right. Defining THE LOOK might be rather tricky as beauty is most definitely in the eye of the beholder, but using anything you like the look of is one of the great aspects of Pulp gaming. As Valerik alluded to, we can have rocket bikes, auto-gyros and death rays alongside camels, cavemen, dinosaurs and lost continents! It just has to have that Pulp look!
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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #208 on: 23 June 2014, 06:43:55 AM »
The Ryan Trainer definitely has the Pulp Look, especially when it's painted pink! I love what you've done there, Prof.

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Re: Pulp Plane Library
« Reply #209 on: 23 June 2014, 07:21:25 AM »
Press play,..drool at the plane.  ;)

« Last Edit: 23 June 2014, 03:07:52 PM by Prof. Dinglebat. Phd. »

 

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