Fallout: Heading East

[Wyrmalla]

Reasons why I don't use vehicles in games...

Aye giving one side even a truck is a massive advantage in skirmish scale games. So even if one faction in the canon could field a vehicle, I'd rather have it just as a terrain piece than something functional (and I would say that it is canon that various factions field vehicles, up to military grade stuff like tanks and planes). I said in the Wargames Factory bike thread what I could picture them being used for in the Fallout world, so yes, them and other vehicles are perfectly plausible in the world.

...Well that is, even if the games don't display them due to problems with the engines. Van Buren was going to feature vehicles for one at least and New Vegas shows that the NCR has a vehicle pool (as well as mentioning that they have an armoured cavalry regiment-as well as regular horses- in addition to the Rangers using all sorts of crap). The Legion I could see using vehicles in a much more limited capacity however given their stance on technology and the loss of skills with their recruiting techniques (they could come across a stash of working cars, but destroy them or just leave them as its not their thing). Saying that its clear not all Legionnaires, particularly as their ranking increases, follow Caesar's mantra to the letter. IIRC the Legion vehicles which I made ages ago were to be used by the higher ups within the faction, or in a purely limited capacity. Why don't the NCR have vehicles in the games, from a canon perspective rather than gameplay? Well because they're stretched thin, and its a long journey to Vegas. The NCR deployed its strength over the river in their original campaign there when they first encountered the Legion. The forces the Courier meets are the depleted remnants of the NCR's army after the retreated across the river (and left a load of its kit there). Why don't we see Legion vehicles? Because the forces in game are the forward elements of the Legion's armies, and most of their forces are further back along the river (i.e. in all that wonderful cut content that Obsidian didn't have time to implement in the game).

...And I'm waffling. Ah, summary, stick in whatever vehicle's/animals/etc you want. The world's a big and whacky place, so as long as it doesn't make me facepalm at being so out of place its weird (...no Toyota Prius is what I'm saying), then do what the hell you want.

Ah, yes I am apparently the arbitrator of what you can and can't make now.

[commissarmoody]

I was really counting on using a Prius to, got to cut down on fuel consumption and radiation when it blows up. 
And I was only thinking of vehicles most as terrain and fun things to have on the table. Maybe the odd game where they would be used, would be at a much larger scale of game them I currently have figs for.

[MajorTalon]

Did you get ride of the rest of your old Legion figs?
Or am I miss reading what you posted?
the new Legion figs look cool so far, but I might borrow a little bit of the idea from WulframMors and try out some of those Mad Robot Sadoukadi Heads. If they work out fine on my War Games factory Romans.

The Mad Robot guardsmen are awesome, that being said, the Sadoukadi heads are the size of regular GW Guardsmen heads.

[Wyrmalla]

Anyone noticed that the pre-war and post-was Vault elevator from the Fallout 4 trailer are slightly different models? No? Well I have. 

[Wyrmalla]

In spite of painting up some Legionnaires for some reason a notion came upon me to make a Vault elevator from Fallout 4. Yup, because I really wanted this pain in the arse.

Its not a scale replica of the one from the trailer. No, that one I measured to be about 19 inches across for 28mm. The one I'm making is 12 inches across instead as I couldn't fit anything larger inside the storage boxes that I have. =P



I've not worked on this long, so its still incomplete. As I don't have the palsticard to use as a base for this at hand right now I haven't worked on the area that's still red foam. That part I'm just using as a guideline and will be cut away and instead I'll fill in that area with milliput (which I'll probably have to buy some more of too). Like I said this isn't a complete replica, so if you compare it with the original you'll notice I didn't include so many panels (eight instead of ten), as well as simplified some of the details ...because I couldn't be entirely bothered with the hassle (the area around the gear is supposed to have a texture to it).



Heh, so there you go. Its a bit of a pie plate, and not something that I really expected to do, but there you go.  

[Noctuary]

I can dig it  everything you've put together is great man keep it coming. You're pretty much the reason I've even started working on my project. So thanks for the inspiration.

[Constable Bertrand]

You are ambitious! keep at it. That will be very cool, you just need the rest of the mountain now to put it on. 

Cheers
Matt.

[Wyrmalla]

@ Noctuary

Wait this isn't like vampires is it? Because you read this thread and started you own that doesn't mean that I can now mind control you as I'm your sire or anything? Damn, I need to check those forum rules just in case, I could have sworn I read that clause somewhere.

...Though ah, that also means I'm Messyart's bitch too, as even though he didn't start me with these models, I took the foray into making a thread about them so I could blag some of his stuff (heh, signing up to this forum to buy his models without contributing seemed a bit cheap to me).

@  Constable Bertrand

No sir, now I have to build a giant blimp with Vertibirds encircling it!

...Wait didn't someone make a Vertibird in 28mm they were selling ages ago?



I managed to buy in some more modelling supplies today, so was able to work on the Vault elevator a bit more.



I can see having the base model finished by tonight. Then its a case of tidying it up a little (the clay's surface is a little uneven in places). Its looking a bit like a hubcap somewhat now however...

[Noctuary]

That would work for me as long as you could mind control me into making some better terrain or painting my miniatures a bit better  .

What kind of clay are you using? Just air dry?

[Wyrmalla]

When it comes to the materials I use its whatever my local craft stores sell, even if its not the best. Aye its Yellow/Grey milliput, that yes dries in the air. I'm not one for fancy techniques or anything, so you're off the shelf stuff does mostly (even if I know I'd have better results with other material. ...This stuff's cheap though).

Oh and why is it slightly brown instead of pure yellow? I use my paint water to smooth the clay. Yes, I only clean out that water once every other month. I keep it there so long that the water evaporates in the air and I'm constantly having to refill the thing. Yes that would be an opportune time to clean the water, but meh.

[MajorTalon]

Looking good so far. And yeah, but the Vertibird was something like $150USD.

[Wyrmalla]

Here enjoy a random image of my paint water.



Yes it does look a bit like beef gravy.

Edit: Yes I also use a bright pink box cutter too. I literally go through piles of blades for that thing. The wonder of buying a knife for a pound (the blades come in like sets of forty at least). ...What I break the more expensive ones too, at least these don't cost me anything to replace.

Edit: Edit: And as I'm now delving into my modelling tools, yes those are cocktail sticks. Some use fancy pants sculpting tools that cost loads, I just buy cocktail sticks (at the same time I'm picking up the rest of my food shopping). I did use needles at one point, and yes they break less often, but they also have the issue of being right buggers to find when you lose them too.

[Noctuary]

OK milliput makes sense now. I was going to say everytime I use "air dry clay" it cracks. I've never used milliput because for some reason no one carries it here in stores. I have some greenstuff on the way and I'm eager to try and make some of those modded figures of yours.
You're making me hungry now..

[Wyrmalla]

Milliput seems fine when it comes to cracking. Well at least the way I deal with it I think, the water may or may not have an effect. There's probably a thread somewhere down in the general discussions forum talking about the proper use of the stuff, but like I've said I'm rather amateurish. I would say that I wouldn't even attempt something this size with greenstuff. Let alone because of the cost being higher than milliput, but also that I'd wouldn't be able to finish anything before it all dried. Even milliput dries comparatively fast when compared to clay that only dries when you add a chemical to it, but again that'd take for effort to get a hold of (I'm lying there's probably a crap ton of it in the same section of the shop where I buy the milliput) and the price would be higher too (and like I said I already spent £12 on this thing, well plus the £2.50 for the plasticard as well).

Here's the completed first pass of the thing then. I've ran out of millput (this thing took three boxes of the stuff, that's £12 btw, eugh), so I can't go over it an tidy it up again till I can make it back into town to buy more unfortunately. I may do that tomorrow or just leave it till Friday when I need to go out anyway.

[Noctuary]

Yeah as mentioned in the other thread it would be impossible to keep up with you haha
You've nailed it! Are you going with the paintjob in the picture, just war torn?