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Author Topic: The ubiquitous, rather than the obscure (armoured warfare edition)  (Read 6637 times)

Offline The Red Graf

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Re: The ubiquitous, rather than the obscure (armoured warfare edition)
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2015, 12:50:20 AM »
Sounds good!

One of the more interesting things I've found is that there really is very little record of what happened to most of the British heavy tanks (the bulk of which would be Mark IVs and Mark Vs). A fair number went to Russia, a few others to Germany and most of the rest were retained in the UK, either as monuments, reserve weapons (yes, the Home Guard actually put a couple into running order), or were sold for scrap, but there are almost no clear records for most of those.

That leaves the ultimate fate of hundreds of tanks... conveniently mysterious. Who knows where a few sold for "scrap" really wound up?  ;)

I realize this is thredomancy, but there are four British mark V's in Lugansk Ukraine. Two are on public display near the city center. They were given to the Whites during the Revolution and ended up in the hands of the Reds after the Battle of Lugansk. The two on display are in very nice shape though I think they have been inexpertly restored over the years as both are now hermaphrodites. I have some pictures somewhere.
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Offline Keith

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Re: The ubiquitous, rather than the obscure (armoured warfare edition)
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2015, 06:05:30 AM »
Did anyone mention the Lancia 1Z and 1ZM?
Good for Late WW1 ,Freikorps, Rif war, Abyssia etc.
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Offline von Lucky

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Re: The ubiquitous, rather than the obscure (armoured warfare edition)
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2015, 09:01:07 AM »
Did anyone mention the Lancia 1Z and 1ZM?
Good for Late WW1 ,Freikorps, Rif war, Abyssia etc.

And WWII on anti-partizan duty:
http://www.thefewgoodmen.com/thefgmforum/threads/lancia-izm-armored-car.12660/
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Offline Arlequín

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Re: The ubiquitous, rather than the obscure (armoured warfare edition)
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2015, 09:45:14 AM »
I know nothing of the Freikorps, but I'm fairly certain no IZ/IZMs saw service in the Rif War and the only ones in the SCW were the 6 or 8 (-ish iirc) which were part of the CTV.

Offline von Lucky

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Re: The ubiquitous, rather than the obscure (armoured warfare edition)
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2015, 12:28:32 PM »
I'm sure I've seen the Freikorps picture, but Wikipedia is telling me the Italians went to Spain with some:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia_1ZM

But in my travels I found this:


Source:
http://histclo.com/essay/war/swc/force/wehr/reichwehr.html

(The obscure, rather than the ubiquitous.)

Offline MartinR

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Re: The ubiquitous, rather than the obscure (armoured warfare edition)
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2015, 03:20:16 PM »
Along with Vickers copies, the British were very successful in exporting a wide range of budget light tanks around the world (again, Vickers led the way in these). Models of these are hard to come by as they didn't commonly see service in either WW1 or WW2.

By far and away the easiest and classic 'interwar' tank is the Renault FT.

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Offline FramFramson

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Re: The ubiquitous, rather than the obscure (armoured warfare edition)
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2015, 07:23:04 AM »
But in my travels I found this:


Source:
http://histclo.com/essay/war/swc/force/wehr/reichwehr.html

(The obscure, rather than the ubiquitous.)

 lol lol lol


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