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Offline Vanvlak

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Scruffy armies in the 30 years war - advice needed
« on: 16 January 2014, 09:55:16 AM »
Although my historical forays are few and far between, I had some years ago acquired a small 28mm scale force of ECW troops, mostly plastic. I would like to paint them up as a force which does not have a strict, uniform or distinct appearance - such as the distinctive Scots,  the red-coated (well, not all...) New Model Army, or the Imperials (who I believe had cloth for uniforms given as a small part of their wages).

Which force (I have less than a 100 models), which could be based on the ECW figures, would have a rag tag appearance? I would prefer one which saw action on the continent.
Thanks in advance.   :)

Offline nelsons-signal

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Re: Scruffy armies in the 30 years war - advice needed
« Reply #1 on: 16 January 2014, 02:23:09 PM »
Hello,

historical   --- all troops involved in the TYW had a rag tag appearance ! 

There is a possibly that units had uniform-alike clothes.
But this only means that some (but little) indications could be found - that textile in certain colors was given to some regiments.


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Achim


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Offline flags_of_war

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Re: Scruffy armies in the 30 years war - advice needed
« Reply #2 on: 16 January 2014, 02:34:40 PM »
This is kind of what you want to aim for. Could be any Unit though  :)


Offline Vanvlak

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Re: Scruffy armies in the 30 years war - advice needed
« Reply #3 on: 16 January 2014, 05:17:48 PM »
Thanks Nelsons and Flags.
So unless the regiment was just issued with gear, and happened to be lead by a finicky commander who was a stickler for appearance, anything (reasonable) goes?
Flags-of-war - are the troops in the pic from some Swedish museum? I have the feeling I saw that pic once and had been looking for it.
Thanks.

Offline flags_of_war

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Re: Scruffy armies in the 30 years war - advice needed
« Reply #4 on: 16 January 2014, 06:08:34 PM »
Yes they are in the Stockholm Army museum

Offline Vanvlak

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Re: Scruffy armies in the 30 years war - advice needed
« Reply #5 on: 16 January 2014, 06:51:53 PM »
Thanks flags_of_war,  I had been looking for that.  8)

Offline Franz_Josef

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Re: Scruffy armies in the 30 years war - advice needed
« Reply #6 on: 25 January 2014, 06:25:40 PM »
Per Count Tilly, the ideal for a 30 Yrs War infantryman was " a ragged soldier with a bright musket."  If you look at Osprey book for Gustavus Adolphus' army, there is a very good picture of Swedish troops in wintertime - ragged indeed!  Veteran Spanish troops in the Low Countries were infamously ill-clothed.  And it was a common "custom" of 17th century troops to loot and strip their dead foes.

Offline Vanvlak

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Re: Scruffy armies in the 30 years war - advice needed
« Reply #7 on: 25 January 2014, 06:27:18 PM »
Per Count Tilly, the ideal for a 30 Yrs War infantryman was " a ragged soldier with a bright musket."  If you look at Osprey book for Gustavus Adolphus' army, there is a very good picture of Swedish troops in wintertime - ragged indeed!  Veteran Spanish troops in the Low Countries were infamously ill-clothed.  And it was a common "custom" of 17th century troops to loot and strip their dead foes.
Sounds like I'm in luck then. Thanks Frans-Josef.

 

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