Rules for Roman skirmish?

[bigredbat]

I'm contemplating dipping a toe into the world of Roman skirmish, but don't have any experience with rules lower than at a cohort level.  ;-)  What rules do people use for skirmish, please?

[Prof.Witchheimer]

Wargames Foundry Compendium provides a lovely little rule set "Today Will Decide". It's about for playing skirmish games with Roman Centurions vs small warbands of Gauls. Quick and dirty incl. heroic actions etc. 

Also I know of some people who are using SAGA rules for Ancients skirmish.

Lt.Hazel was using T&T rules for his Late Roman Tactica game.

[bigredbat]

Thanks Prof, what's T&T?

I originally come from (in didtant days of yore) a role-playing background.  I was particularly wondering if there is a set where players have about half a dozen to a dozen characters each; street gangs or so forth.

Cheers, Simon

[Lt. Hazel]

We use SAGA and Triumph and Tragedy with modifications for Late Romans. If you are interested in the T&T stuff let me know, LAF member Skink wrote all changes down, he will send you a document for sure.
And Dux Britanniarum seems to ne very good, didn't Play it personally but others love it.
For the Romans I use the Anglo-Danish Board when playing SAGA. Hope that helps?
Edit: for real small games have a look at Broadsword Adventures, really fast and fun.

[Furt]

There is a ancients "street gang" ruleset by Ganesha Games called Song of Shadows and Dust, which I have never played, but seems designed for such things.

[bigredbat]

Thanks all!  The other systems sound fine but with more minis than I'm after using; Song of shadows and Dust does indeed sound closer.  I'll either have a look at that, or write something of my own. 

Cheers, Simon

[nervisfr]

There is a ancients "street gang" ruleset by Ganesha Games called Song of Shadows and Dust, which I have never played, but seems designed for such things.

that's right !   

An ancient set of rules will follow (still under playtesting at Ganesha Games).
SSS= Song of Spear and Shield (Ancient Skirmish) final playtest
the yahoo group : https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/songofblades/info

[rumacara]

Could it be more, converted to the cause of roman gangs?

I hope so.

Song of Shadows and Dust might work for what your searching for.

Wargames Soldier and Strategy issue 63 also has Saga batteboard and rules for roman street gangs that might interest you. If you can, check them.

Cheers

Rumacara

[WuZhuiQiu]

Somebody by the name of Cy Taylor ran a Gangs of Rome skirmish at the Fall-In  Convention in the US:

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=325771

I haven't yet seen his rules, though.

[bigredbat]

Thanks- TMP is down, but I do recall seeing pics of his Rome.  Very nice.

Rumcara, by chance I know Mark who wrote the WS&S piece, well.  Perhaps I'll play that game with him, sometime!

[Mainly28s]

You could always use Warhammer Ancient Battles, and cut it down to a skirmish as per the Fall of the West Supplement.
Another alternative would be to use Mordheim as a staring point.

[bigredbat]

Shockingly, I must confess that I've never played Mordheim!  It always looked good, from afar, but I wasn't into things GW.  I'll have a look at the rules...

[Prof.Witchheimer]

Shockingly, I must confess that I've never played Mordheim!  It always looked good, from afar, but I wasn't into things GW.  I'll have a look at the rules...

I think, there is free PDF version of the rules somewhere on the GW site. The rules are good, I've enjoyed them, you've got a lot of special weapon rules, which makes the using and equipment an important tactical point in the game. Though logically you'll have to make some additions for things like pillum, scutum etc.

[bigredbat]

Yes there is a version called Coreheim.  I know this because I downloaded them, a couple of years back with this project in mind; never read them, though.  Typical.  ;-)

http://www.coreheim.com/

[Onebigriver]

A pity you don't have a copy of the LOTR rules. There's a LOTR Rules Variant Yahoo Group with rules for Romans vs Celts, I'm sure they could be adapted to your needs.