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Offline Damas

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Re: Beyond the donga - Cave Wars terrain table for BLAM 2015
« Reply #30 on: 15 March 2015, 09:09:40 AM »
Looking fun, Richard!
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Re: Beyond the donga - Cave Wars terrain table for BLAM 2015
« Reply #31 on: 15 March 2015, 09:56:20 AM »
What you really need for this is the most famous Caveman of all:



 ;D ;D


Not quite what I had in mind  lol


Could you not have quartered your old boards, make them 2x2 sections, that'll give you some more permutations?

Unfortunately not, Andy. Too many integral hills. If I cut each of the four 1200 x 500 boards in half to make eight 600 x 500 boards, there would still only be one way they could go back together...
This perhaps, is the shortcoming of fully contoured, model railway style layouts...  ::)


Apparently using a drill to to mess up the surface is a good model railway trick...
http://www.009.cd2.com/members/how_to/topography.htm

Interesting. Thanks Andy. May well give that a try.

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Re: Beyond the donga - Cave Wars terrain table for BLAM 2015
« Reply #32 on: 22 March 2015, 04:11:50 PM »
Have done a little more carving. Or should that be caving.
I've decided this project is going to be a leisurely build - I'm not going to tear into it like I usually do. But take my time to think everything through...
Well, we'll see  ;)

I’ve now added the lower deep cavern (Doom! Doom!) with cave passages running down to it.



The only way to chase out the slopes down into the lower cavern is using a very sharp blade – the hot wire cutter can’t get into that angle. You just have to slice repeatedly into the styrofoam with the knife in a criss-cross pattern, and then hoik out the unwanted material to form the approximate contour of the path.





It’s messy, but at least the spoil is in bits – and not styrofoam dust, which is what you’d get if you tried to sand it.

That said, having carved out the basic shape of the descents, I did use my trusty Dremel with a sanding bit to smooth down the resultant pathways and cave walls - making sure that the gradient was okay for figures to stand up on.
(When I ‘ice’ the interior surfaces with wall filler, I will give these descending pathways a slightly stepped finish, to make sure the passageway floor is level enough for figures).



Here’s the lower cavern with the upper caves level on top. (Don’t ask why there’s a tunnel entrance halfway up the cavern wall – I haven’t decided what to do with it yet. It might be a drop to nowhere to catch the unwary. Or I might install a rope bridge across the cavern… )





You can see I’ve also added some smaller tunnels connecting some of the larger caves.



The basic rule within the cave system will be: If a figure can fit through a tunnel or gap, then it can travel down it. If it can’t – it can’t. So while the large neanderthals and any predators of any size will not be able to fit down the narrow tunnels - nor will the bigger cavemen. They will have to stick to the main caves.
And whilst the cave women and children will be small enough to pass the smaller tunnels – so will shorter hostiles like apes and wolves… :D
Interesting huh?  ;)

The large cavern will have a small, dark pool in the centre, as marked.



To achieve this, I will slap several coats of PVA onto the surface of the foam to form a smooth shiny base for the water to be painted on and then varnished. I will then build up the rest of the ground slightly around the pool to give it a sense of depth.
The alternative would be to actually hollow out a pool and then fill it with resin to form the water. But why go to the trouble when still water is a smooth flat surface, and there’s already a ready-made smooth flat surface right there?

Here's the whole cave system stack.






I need to now do a bit more titivation to shape the entrances and walls to the caves and tunnels a bit more, and hollow out the passageway floors slighty.

Then the whole lot gets fixed together into one massif, using wood glue and cocktail sticks. Possibly cut-down bamboo barbecue skewers actually, to go through that lot.

Then we can get onto the more artistic stuff  :)
« Last Edit: 22 March 2015, 04:20:16 PM by Captain Blood »

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Ah, this one needs to be followed  :-*

Will you be showcasing the minis in this thread as well?

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I shall follow this with great interest, what a superb idea!


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Looks great  8)

By the way, that pallet of pink foam at Wickes has now all gone.... So the source has dried! :o
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This is looking awesome. I wish it was possible to get Pink/bue foam in Denmark. But it is next to impossible to find.

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You can still get pink foam at wickes just look for a store that has some in stock...but yes it is now discontinued

more here

http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/pink-foam-terrain-builders-dream.html


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That looks fantastic, I'm getting claustrophobia already.

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This is looking awesome. I wish it was possible to get Pink/bue foam in Denmark. But it is next to impossible to find.

I think I should start dealing insulation foam to hobbyists of Europe from here, we have plenty and quite cheap :D

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You can still get pink foam at wickes just look for a store that has some in stock...but yes it is now discontinued

more here

http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/pink-foam-terrain-builders-dream.html



Yeah on my last visit the local one had a mountain of it but on returning 3 months later it is all gone. I like to think that a wargamer bought it for a mahoosive board!
« Last Edit: 22 March 2015, 07:49:44 PM by Silent Invader »

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Coming together nicely. It looks like its going to be a lot of fun. :)
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Massive build!

Should be interesting to see this shape up (I am planning to do some hex-based modular caves, so some of your techniques may come in handy)!
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The tunnel entrance next the pool hasn't gone unnoticed ;)
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The tunnel entrance next the pool hasn't gone unnoticed ;)

Heh heh... Is that a rear entrance to the caves for predators and hostiles? Or is it the way out?  :-X  ;)

Will you be showcasing the minis in this thread as well?

I will :)

 

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