Warlord Games: Wars of Religion

[Lowtardog]

Is really like the look of them.

Is 1648 not pushing it a little though for the equipment and clothing they have on.

Aye reckon to 1600 maybe, nice though

[fastolfrus]

1648 is the end of the 30 Years War, not the start.
Clothing style is way too early for 1648.

[Atheling]

But they are mine I tell you!:)

Maybe it's the paint jobs? Don't mean to be offensive in the event the painter is reading! 

Darrell.

[Kommando_J]

''Not sure about the expense - 12.00 for four swordsmen is certainly right up the pricey end for 28mm wargames figures.''

Very true, had to check the url and make sure I wasn't on GW for a second there...

''Conversely, the boxed set of 24 figures seems quite reasonable - except I don't really want all those musketeers and pikemen...''

...Can you read my thoughts!? I feel the same way with the parliament box set, why not do it like the Irish Brigade and have the option of buying the command separate?

I'm more of a small scale/skirmish gamer when I do, I mostly collect interesting models to paint, which is probably why I have more specialist and officer models than troops!

Speaking of can anyone recommend me any good (preferably points based) skirmish games for this period?

[Arthur]

Aye reckon to 1600 maybe, nice though

According to the old Arsenal blog, the range had been commissioned to cover the wars between the Ottomans and the Christian powers of Southern Europe in the mid-16th century, the focus being primarily the siege of Malta in 1565. The figures were researched with that decade in mind and really won't be suitable for the C17th.

They can be used up to the 1590's at a stretch but their dress will look quite anachronistic after that date, even if you make allowances for the continued wearing of older fashions in some parts of Europe.  

[Atheling]

According to the old Arsenal blog, the range had been commissioned to cover the wars between the Ottomans and the Christian powers of Southern Europe in the mid-16th century, the focus being primarily the siege of Malta in 1565. The figures were researched with that decade in mind and really won't be suitable for the C17th.

They can be used up to the 1590's at a stretch but their dress will look quite anachronistic after that date, even if you make allowances for the continued wearing of older fashions in some parts of Europe.  

Very true Arthur.

I think that I'm correct in thinking that the Plunderhosen (Sp?) were often worn loose too? It would be nice to see some sculpts in that garb as well as 'tied' Plunderhosen.

Darrell.

[Tordenskjold]

According to the old Arsenal blog, the range had been commissioned to cover the wars between the Ottomans and the Christian powers of Southern Europe in the mid-16th century, the focus being primarily the siege of Malta in 1565. The figures were researched with that decade in mind and really won't be suitable for the C17th.

They can be used up to the 1590's at a stretch but their dress will look quite anachronistic after that date, even if you make allowances for the continued wearing of older fashions in some parts of Europe.  

Thanks for that insight. I suspected the years suggested by Warlord games had more to do with compatibility with their other ranges than anything else - 16th to mid-17th bridges the gap between the Perry miniatures and warlord's own 30YW ranges nicely.

[Captain Blood]

Thanks for that insight. I suspected the years suggested by Warlord games had more to do with compatibility with their other ranges than anything else - 16th to mid-17th bridges the gap between the Perry miniatures and warlord's own 30YW ranges nicely.

Quite. Warlord would not let a minor thing like the fact the figures are clearly depicted as Elizabethan era, interfere with their commercially driven positioning of the product as suitable for, well - pretty much anything really... 

I guess, arguably, technically, the TYW was the long end game in the European Wars of Religion which stretched, on and off, from the first half on the 1500's onwards. But when most people talk about the Wars of Religion, they're referring to the earlier period. Very definitely mid to late C16th. Not 1648.

[moonshado]

Is my memory playing me false or were the 4 swordsmen initially marketed as for the early part of the Thirty years War and have been part of the Warlord range for quite a while?

[Kommando_J]

Is my memory playing me false or were the 4 swordsmen initially marketed as for the early part of the Thirty years War and have been part of the Warlord range for quite a while?

Different swordsmen miniatures, same style of armour/weapons.

I think the problem is really that Warlord seems to have bitten off more than it can chew by buying up all these rsnges and then wondering what to do with them.

They bough up the ww1 stuff a while back but now the ww1 bolt action game has fallen through.

They've chosen a very broad period to model so obviously the miniatures won't be good for the entire period, perosnally I think that warlord should either go for flexible kits that can be reused or focus on more detail on a single conflict.

[Anderson Collection]

I have been looking for my next project just found it these are great!

[Paul Richardson]

I think these are lovely sculpts. I do hope that Warlord eventually makes them available in smaller packs.

[Lowtardog]

Don't get mewrong these will be bought to play frenchies for Brazil to fight my eureka portuguese if I ever get round to painting them

[Paul Hicks]

Is my memory playing me false or were the 4 swordsmen initially marketed as for the early part of the Thirty years War and have been part of the Warlord range for quite a while?

No these are four new sculpts meant for this range.

[moonshado]

Ah so my memory is playing me false- I'm getting old and senile.