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Offline gamer Mac

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #30 on: 04 November 2015, 02:15:49 PM »
And two movies to get some ideas.

Rob Roy
Rob Roy the Highland Rogue
The first one is the one with the irish actor playing a scot with a funny accent?  Never seen or heard of the second one

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #31 on: 04 November 2015, 02:22:11 PM »
Yes for the first one. lol
The second one is worth seen although its a disney film.
I think you can find it on youtube. Good to take some ideas.

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #32 on: 04 November 2015, 02:27:33 PM »
Bump.

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #33 on: 05 November 2015, 08:36:45 PM »
For all the issues of casting with "the first one", (you're forgetting the ginger American aswell...) it's still one of the best films of the period, and for my money the final sword fight between Rob and Archibald is one of, if not the, best ever committed to film.

Alternatives? The Michael Caine version of Kidnapped for sheer comedy value, though Caine does have something of the appropriate swagger for Alan Breac; and the rather cringeworthy Chasing the Deer (AKA Culloden 1746) with BRIAN BLESSED ("Charlie's aliiiiive!?"). However, for something with rather more impact, Peter Watkins' Culloden is still pretty powerful;My favourite scene is probably just prior to the battle, and the men in the Highland line are reciting their heritage and giving their reasons for being there, ranging from lifelong service to the chief's dynasty ("I am here because Machuilish is here, and it is an honour to serve on the field with my chief, as my father served his father, and his father before him" to the rather more practical "I am Dougal MacDonald, and I am here because a Campbell killed my cow...") Brings a tear to the eye and a lump to the throat, and that's from someone not daft enough to get sucked into the shortbread-tin-and-tourist-tat, rose-tinted perception of the campaign...

Great stuff Colin. Do you want a clan Maclachlan flag?
Still think this range needs expanding... I'm in for at least one 28mm Robertson one and one in 15mm too...  :D

Similar to this-

though I suspect the Chief's motto "Virtutis Gloria Merces" ("Glory is the reward of Valour") should be on the banner, rather than "Ghargh na dusair", which is the slogan (war cry), translating as "Fierce when roused"... (I did see something fitting that descriprion for 10mm ECW, but I forget the manufacturer...)

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #34 on: 06 November 2015, 09:24:20 AM »
The croft of an ordinary highland crofter of the C17th wouldn't have glass in the windows, would it?

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #35 on: 06 November 2015, 12:40:11 PM »
I have no idea? Who would know?

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #36 on: 06 November 2015, 12:42:11 PM »
The croft of an ordinary highland crofter of the C17th wouldn't have glass in the windows, would it?

I have no idea? Who would know?

Slap some shutters over the windy, mate.
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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #37 on: 06 November 2015, 12:45:52 PM »
I have no idea? Who would know?

Who cares anyway. ;) The building is going to look superb whatever the windows look like ;D
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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #38 on: 06 November 2015, 01:28:45 PM »
I've got the Highland Folk Museum on my list of 'places to visit when next in Scotland'. If you don't know it, it might offer inspiration (though presently closed for the winter).

https://www.highlifehighland.com/highlandfolkmuseum/
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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #39 on: 06 November 2015, 02:06:54 PM »
And of course the tv series Outlander also is worth to see for some ideas.

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #40 on: 06 November 2015, 03:53:37 PM »
And of course the tv series Outlander also is worth to see for some ideas.

I have ideas about the leading lady...  ;)

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #41 on: 06 November 2015, 04:15:01 PM »
I have ideas about the leading lady...  ;)

 lol lol lol lol lol

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #42 on: 06 November 2015, 04:19:05 PM »
 lol lol lol

Plenty. ::)

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #43 on: 06 November 2015, 05:20:04 PM »
Well there was the window tax:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_tax

And glass tax:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_tax

And about use of glass in Scotland:

Before the 17th century, glass was very expensive to produce, and could only be obtained in small panes which were set in lead. Decorative stained glass was used in this way in churches. By the end of the 17th century, larger pane sizes could be produced and timber sash and case windows were being used in prestigious domestic buildings. Timber glazing bars or ‘astragals’ allowed a number of panes of glass to be used in a single sash.

These types of window became predominant in all sorts of buildings throughout the 18th and 19th centuries. Much of
the glass of this period was produced by spinning the molten glass to form thin sheets (crown glass), or by forming cylinders that were later flattened (cylinder or broad glass). The results of the spinning action or flattening of the cylinder often created irregularities in the glass that gave each type its own distinctive appearance.

The above (lots more also) is from here:

http://www.historic-scotland.gov.uk/windows.pdf

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Re: 1746 plus a wee bit
« Reply #44 on: 06 November 2015, 08:36:25 PM »
On glass:

Yes. I said C17th, but meant 1700s, i.e. C18th. Even then, the Highlands were still not only near the end of the world, but still pretty 'backward', so to speak. Or should I say 'developing': you know, the Marxist-Hegelian theory of thesis-antithesis-synthesis.

...OK. I'll stop now.

 

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