Dragon Rampant - CHAOS DWARFS *New Harquebusiers* added 08 Jan 2018

[Pappa Midnight]

Thanks for the comments gents.
I'm having a few snags actually statting it so it's "legal" for Dragon Rampant and not go over the normal 10pt maximum.
I was originally looking at Reduced unit Heavy Riders + Ranged Weapons + Flying + Venomous ( Ranged) which works out at 10 points. The problem is it only has a ranged weapon distance of 12" which is a little short.
I'll have to have a proper play.....

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[Grumbledook]

Oh my goodness, that airship is painfully cool. This thread is increasingly making me want to buy some of those Russian Alternative models......... not a good situation 

[jon_1066]

Thanks for the comments gents.
I'm having a few snags actually statting it so it's "legal" for Dragon Rampant and not go over the normal 10pt maximum.
I was originally looking at Reduced unit Heavy Riders + Ranged Weapons + Flying + Venomous ( Ranged) which works out at 10 points. The problem is it only has a ranged weapon distance of 12" which is a little short.
I'll have to have a proper play.....

PM

I don't see it travelling very fast.  Would a heavy missiles start point make more sense?  There is an upgrade in Lion Rampant of Pavise which gives armour 3/4 against melee/shooting for 2 points.  So Heavy Missile, Flying, Pavise gives 8 points.

[Pappa Midnight]

I don't see it travelling very fast.  Would a heavy missiles start point make more sense?  There is an upgrade in Lion Rampant of Pavise which gives armour 3/4 against melee/shooting for 2 points.  So Heavy Missile, Flying, Pavise gives 8 points.

Good skills. I looked at Heavy Missiles but forgot all about the pavise trait in Lion Rampant.

A bit of a "cheat" really but I was looking at Heavy Riders + Chariot + Flying + Wizardling. The "chariot" trait increases armour to 4 but says it can't cross obstacles. The "Flying" overcomes this problem ( the cheat part!). "Wizardling" means you can choose 3 spells : Taking "Power Bolt" gives the ranged attacks and leaves two free slots for other spells . "Befuddle Thee" is good to replicate a bombardment as it automatically batters an enemy unit and "Dragons Breath" is a good choice to replicate it creating a smoke screen to protect it from missiles! Quite a handful for 10 points!!!!

Regards
PM

[Hobby Services]

A bit of a "cheat" really but I was looking at Heavy Riders + Chariot + Flying + Wizardling. The "chariot" trait increases armour to 4 but says it can't cross obstacles. The "Flying" overcomes this problem ( the cheat part!). "Wizardling" means you can choose 3 spells : Taking "Power Bolt" gives the ranged attacks and leaves two free slots for other spells . "Befuddle Thee" is good to replicate a bombardment as it automatically batters an enemy unit and "Dragons Breath" is a good choice to replicate it creating a smoke screen to protect it from missiles! Quite a handful for 10 points!!!!

That seems like the best of the lot to me.  Versatile, durable, plenty fast enough, and countercharge seems very flyer-ish to me, they don't stand still much.  "Melee" probably represents close-in bombardment and dragging the anchor through some poor rank-and-filers.  Chariot + Flying isn't much of a cheat and it does cost a lot of points, and fantasy tropes are full of airborne chariot-things.  Wouldn't count too much on the wizardling part of it working reliably though, 7+ is such a high activation and it goes to 8+ when you're at half SP.       

[Pappa Midnight]

That seems like the best of the lot to me.  Versatile, durable, plenty fast enough, and countercharge seems very flyer-ish to me, they don't stand still much.  "Melee" probably represents close-in bombardment and dragging the anchor through some poor rank-and-filers.  Chariot + Flying isn't much of a cheat and it does cost a lot of points, and fantasy tropes are full of airborne chariot-things.  Wouldn't count too much on the wizardling part of it working reliably though, 7+ is such a high activation and it goes to 8+ when you're at half SP.       

I was thinking the same about "wizardling" being a little unreliable ( especially with my dice rolling) but Power Bolt has the same chance to work as Heavy Missile troops have to fire, with the same range and shoot value. I think it's a better buy than Mounted Missiles because of the superior range and shoot value ( and although it costs 1 pt more you also get 2 extra ability/spells).  I'll have to give her a bash and see how she gets on.

Regards
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[Hobby Services]

I was thinking the same about "wizardling" being a little unreliable ( especially with my dice rolling) but Power Bolt has the same chance to work as Heavy Missile troops have to fire, with the same range and shoot value. I think it's a better buy than Mounted Missiles because of the superior range and shoot value ( and although it costs 1 pt more you also get 2 extra ability/spells).  I'll have to give her a bash and see how she gets on.

Agreed.  The Mounted Missiles upgrade is more reliable but it really doesn't do much when it goes off.  Power Bolt is one of the three hardest-hitting shots in the game - but if you're positioned to do a 5+ Attack order instead of 7+ casting roll, the former is still probably the way to go unless you really need to preserve SP.

At least with a 10-point unit on the table you shouldn't have too many turns where the majority of you army winds up napping after a bad activation roll.  You could even play around with the other units all having Wild Charge and/or Hatred (which seems very in theme for Chaos Dwarves) so you risk less with having the dreadzep spend its time early on trying for casting.

[Grumbledook]

Quick question PM, are your Dwarves the Resin or the metal ones?

[Pappa Midnight]

Quick question PM, are your Dwarves the Resin or the metal ones?

99% of the models are resin. I find it easier to work with and less prone to chipping if they get knocked!
The only metal models are the odd Classic mini (Sorcerer Prophet on the Chariot and the one mounted on the Giant) or the hard to find character model (the female dwarf gunner). Also the resin minis from Russian Alternative are cheaper!!!

Regards
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[Pappa Midnight]

I thought I'd post some pics of my Hobgoblin Cavalry ( Russian Alternative) which I finished last week.












Hope you like them!

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[Hobby Services]

The air for miles around must be filled with the smell of burning wolfhide when that unit's out riding.  Although I suppose the overall choking volcanic fumes tend to drown that out.

Lovely work.  Very characterful and dynamic.

[von Lucky]

The eyes on that last goblin are deathly vacant, and the wolves look like Gmork.

[Romark]

Wow! They are terrific 

[OSHIROmodels]

Lovely additions 

cheers

James

[Dr. The Viking]

I think, aesthetically, square bases was always a hard sell but you have done a very good job with them.

The wolves at great too!