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Offline Atheling

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Re: A Question about Medieval Livery
« Reply #30 on: 09 February 2014, 08:37:00 AM »
I think so. The use of the cross was probably provocative by itself, as it was still the mark of someone who had taken a crusader vow at this time. Given de Montfort's own crusader heritage, to then select of colour of cross worn by Henry III's grandfather and uncle was unlikely to have been a coincidence.

That's exactly what I was thinking. When you think of the importance to the nobility of the family history (which was often bound up with family mythology) it seems entirely plausible.

I'll chalk my comments up to an educated guess then :D

When it comes to Medieval history and the oft lack of evidence we all do that to some extent- it's part of the fun- putting in place the pieces of the puzzle  ;) :).

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« Last Edit: 09 February 2014, 08:39:00 AM by Atheling »

Offline Crossedlances

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Re: A Question about Medieval Livery
« Reply #31 on: 09 February 2014, 10:32:28 AM »
@Atheling

A deliberate provocation?

Now that is a thought isn't it, wind your enemy up so he makes a mistake...!
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Offline Too Bo Coo

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Re: A Question about Medieval Livery
« Reply #32 on: 09 February 2014, 10:37:06 AM »
@Atheling

A deliberate provocation?

Now that is a thought isn't it, wind your enemy up so he makes a mistake...!

It would be very Sun Tzu...

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Re: A Question about Medieval Livery
« Reply #33 on: 10 February 2014, 08:46:24 AM »
It would be very Sun Tzu...

“The general, unable to control his irritation, will launch his men to the assault like swarming ants, with the result that one-third of his men are slain”

Or in Henry III's case, numberoneson charges off and destroys the enemy left wing, but pursues them off the battlefield, returning in time to find the battle lost and be captured alongside his father. ;)

Offline Atheling

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Re: A Question about Medieval Livery
« Reply #34 on: 10 February 2014, 09:15:37 AM »
Or in Henry III's case, numberoneson charges off and destroys the enemy left wing, but pursues them off the battlefield, returning in time to find the battle lost and be captured alongside his father. ;)

 :D

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Re: A Question about Medieval Livery
« Reply #35 on: 10 February 2014, 11:44:31 AM »
Or in Henry III's case, numberoneson charges off and destroys the enemy left wing, but pursues them off the battlefield, returning in time to find the battle lost and be captured alongside his father. ;)

It was timeless advice....

 

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