*
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
September 19, 2021, 07:51:40 AM

Login with username, password and session length

Donate

We Appreciate Your Support

Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 1526828
  • Total Topics: 106546
  • Online Today: 338
  • Online Ever: 1675
  • (December 28, 2020, 04:48:59 PM)
Users Online

Recent

Author Topic: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again  (Read 35562 times)

Offline Diablo Jon

  • Mad Scientist
  • Posts: 982
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Portuguese Cacadores for Moçambique
« Reply #435 on: July 12, 2021, 07:39:00 PM »
Pass for 1860's but not later.

Thanks for the interest I'm sure you have more knowledge on the subject than I do. Sources are certainly scarce in English and as I've said I'm mostly reliant on the Wargames Foundry book on Colonial African armies. Having said that it does have pictures of an 1870 cacadore, and 1880s indigena infantry that I modelled my miniatures on. So I figured mine are good from the 1869 uniform reforms up until 1894-5ish when Albuquerque reformed the forces in east Africa.
   I know there were a number of uniform changes during that time in the metropolitan army but it seems they were slow to make to the colonies or the changes didn't apply to the colonies  for example according to Abbot in 1892 the metropolitan army replaced brown uniforms with blue tunics and Austrian cuffs but this change didn't extend to Africa.
   I Also think you can get away with outdated arms and uniforms to an extant Abbot again gives an example of a detachment of Portuguese troops in Guine that were relived after 14 years who hadn't received any new uniform for 12 years I can only imagine they didn't confirm to the latest uniform regulations.

It's certainly an interesting subject I wish there was more written in English of the Portuguese in Africa in the 19th century.

Offline Kingscarbine

  • Mad Scientist
  • Posts: 786
  • Bayonets... Level!
    • Kingscarbine Miniatures
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Portuguese Cacadores for Moçambique
« Reply #436 on: July 12, 2021, 09:26:27 PM »
Ofcourse. That's why I'm giving some help. If you have any questions...

Offline Diablo Jon

  • Mad Scientist
  • Posts: 982
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Portuguese Cacadores for Moçambique
« Reply #437 on: August 29, 2021, 07:54:37 AM »
It's been a while since I posted anything mostly because I've renovating the wargames room. If your interested you can see how that turned out here https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=131769.0

Now I’ve got my wargames room back I decided to have a bit of a simple scenery bash, today, and make some new Elephant grass for my African gaming boards. I’ve tried to make Elephant grass before and although I quite liked the results it was a rather involved process which took a long time.

In reality battlefields in Africa, with Elephant grass, are covered in the stuff and you need rather a lot of model grass so I needed to find a simpler way of making elephant grass. As the name suggests Elephant grass is big, growing 12-14 feet high, and battles that took place among such grass saw the protagonists literally fighting blind.

So to represent this giant grass I went for the easy option of gluing, with my hot glue gun, plastic Aquarium grass, supplied by my local pet shop in a a foot square matt for £7.99, to bases and spraying it various shades of green and brown. Then I added some flock to the bases to match my terrain boards and done. You really can’t get a much easier terrain project. I made three decent sized clumps but I think I need to build several more to produce a really big area of grass perfect for ambushes.







Offline Dr. The Viking

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 5840
  • Rowdy, Hostile and Wrong Inc.
    • Dr. The Vikings Miniature Games Hell
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #438 on: August 29, 2021, 11:37:36 AM »
That has to be the best elephant grass I've seen!  :o

I went for many small bases for mine, but I guess I could add in some patches like this. My only concern is that you can't really fit figures in it.
My Empire - where everything I ever did is collected:

http://www.c0wabunga.com

Offline Diablo Jon

  • Mad Scientist
  • Posts: 982
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #439 on: August 30, 2021, 06:29:44 AM »
That has to be the best elephant grass I've seen!  :o

I went for many small bases for mine, but I guess I could add in some patches like this. My only concern is that you can't really fit figures in it.
Thanks.

With regards to fitting miniatures inside that is, in my experience, one of the constant struggles of wargames terrain is often to get something to look better, and more realistic, means making it harder to place miniatures on if you make it more miniature friendly you often have to cut corners aesthetically. I did something similar with my jungle pieces



what I tend to do, with scenery like this, is clump 3 or more bases together with gaps between and say the whole area counts as jungle, or elephant grass, the miniatures can move around in the gaps and still benefit from being in cover.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2021, 10:20:17 AM by Diablo Jon »

Online OSHIROmodels

  • Supporting Adventurer
  • Elder God
  • *
  • Posts: 24589
  • Custom terrain a speciality.
    • Oshiro modelterrain
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #440 on: August 30, 2021, 06:49:50 AM »
Lovely stuff, the elephant grass is a definite success  8)

Offline RedRowan

  • Scientist
  • Posts: 244
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #441 on: August 30, 2021, 07:27:28 AM »
That elephant grass is brilliant, may need to borrow that idea!

Steve

Offline Plynkes

  • The Royal Bastard
  • Moderator
  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 9957
  • I killed Mufasa!
    • http://misterplynkes.blogspot.com/
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #442 on: August 30, 2021, 09:40:21 AM »
More wonderful stuff from Jon!



With Cat-Like Tread
Upon our prey we steal...

Offline has.been

  • Galactic Brain
  • Posts: 4300
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #443 on: August 30, 2021, 11:13:22 AM »
Quote
what I tend to do, with scenery like this, is clump 3 or more bases together with gaps between and say the whole area counts as jungle, or elephant grass, the miniatures can move around in the gaps and still benefit from being in cover.

This is the way to do it. many years ago the club I was then with,
Scimitar in Coventry, went in for 7YW. Among things that we all hated
were figures balanced precariously on rooftops, walls or on top of
(incredibly strong) stalks of corn. Someone, not I, came up with
the following:-
Buildings were grouped onto hardboard, say 3 or 4,
depends on building size, this represented a Hamlet.
Two such bases together = a village, & so on.
The smart thing, & again it weren't me, was that there was space
on each tile (gardens, village green etc) for ONE regiment. Therefore
Hamlets could hold one regiment, Villages two & so on.
The regiment(s) counted as occupying the buildings, but looked
good in the pictures (see early issues of the late lamented Duncan
MacFarlane's magazines).

Offline FifteensAway

  • Scatterbrained Genius
  • Posts: 3099
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #444 on: September 01, 2021, 02:37:09 AM »
I well remember those WI articles - still have them stacked up somewhere - they will inspire how I do many of my buildings.  Just need the least available resource: time.  Come on retirement, get here soon.

Lovely work as always.

Offline Calumma

  • Librarian
  • Posts: 116
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #445 on: September 01, 2021, 05:55:51 AM »
Elephant grass looks great. I agree the best way to represent blocks of larger terrain is to use multiple small terrain pieces.

Offline MaleGriffin

  • Scientist
  • Posts: 451
  • Don't bother running.... You'll just die tired....
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #446 on: September 02, 2021, 12:28:35 AM »
Brilliant!!! Gorgeous brushwork! I really love the elephant grass!
Hoc quoque transibit
Sanguinem sistit semper

Offline Diablo Jon

  • Mad Scientist
  • Posts: 982
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #447 on: September 02, 2021, 08:31:47 AM »
Thanks for the nice comments guys  :)

Offline Isasi

  • Assistant
  • Posts: 35
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #448 on: September 02, 2021, 07:37:47 PM »
Awesome work!.

Congratulations.
It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

Offline Hammers

  • Amateur papiermachiéer
  • Supporting Adventurer
  • Elder God
  • *
  • Posts: 15843
  • Workbench and Pulp Moderator
Re: Diablo Jon does Darkest Africa - Elephant Grass Scenery Again
« Reply #449 on: September 03, 2021, 08:48:23 PM »
Brill!

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
28 Replies
12335 Views
Last post November 29, 2006, 09:31:04 AM
by dominic
31 Replies
13593 Views
Last post March 04, 2010, 02:45:06 AM
by n815e
8 Replies
3239 Views
Last post June 21, 2011, 11:24:10 PM
by Mindenbrush
9 Replies
3195 Views
Last post May 15, 2016, 02:12:33 AM
by Argonor
133 Replies
21857 Views
Last post December 14, 2018, 08:01:48 PM
by Diablo Jon