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Excellent figures and brushwork :)
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Bloggard: if you read the Wikipedia article on James, this issue is discussed. I too read some of Geoffrey Elton's books when studying the Tudors at A level, but in addition to the Tudors we also studied the Stuarts. I seem to recall that it was well-known at the time that James had a weakness for handsome young men, and this was exploited on a number of occasions. Details, however, elude me after 50 years.
Talking of Geoffrey Elton, I assume you know that he was Ben Elton's uncle.

Doctor Who did quite a good James episode... he was all about the boys.

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Talking of Geoffrey Elton, I assume you know that he was Ben Elton's uncle.

Ah, right, concerning King James's predilections.
Yes, was aware re: Ben Elton.
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My ‘Treason and Plot’ order arrived today. Absolutely delighted with them, beautiful figures, thank you.


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My ‘Treason and Plot’ order arrived today. Absolutely delighted with them, beautiful figures, thank you.

Marvellous!
Thank you M’Lud  :)

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Received yesterday and went straight to the front of the painting queue. Bloody smashing figures Richard.
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Marvellous!
Thank you M’Lud  :)

Any plans for an Upstart Crow?

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Received yesterday and went straight to the front of the painting queue. Bloody smashing figures Richard.


Thanks Craig :)

Any plans for an Upstart Crow?

There are indeed. I have a pack of (armed) actors and playwrights in mind, in the vein of ‘Shakespeare In Love’.

That said, the new figures are moving rather slowly, which is slightly surprising given the outpouring of enthusiasm and multiple sworn declarations of intent to buy that accompanied the previews on social media over several weeks.
But then as we know, what wargamers say they want / like, and what wargamers actually spend their money on, are two rather different things ;)

Anyway, it’s still early days. We’ll see how they fare over the coming weeks and months before I commit to a further release in this (admittedly new and somewhat esoteric) period :)

I’d like to do more, but they do need to wash their face in terms of sales.

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*desperately crosses fingers hoping sales pick up*
Whilst I don't want to direct sales away from any future Bloody Jacobean releases, wargamers (myself included) do tend to be wary of starting a niche period with limited support/"other manufacturers" incase the range in question stalls. If they can see that other vaguely compatible ranges exist that could be used with the BM models, perhaps that might help?
Somewhat of an irony but perhaps showing them that they can still use the models if the range isn't expanded is the route to getting enough sales for the range to expand...

As a thought perhaps some marketing photos showing their compatibility with border reivers, 3 musketeers and early TYW types might help - rather like the comparison with the Foundry Sea dogs that you posted?
Heck, even just showing what other Bloody Miniatures would work well in the 1610s-20s?
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There are indeed. I have a pack of (armed) actors and playwrights in mind, in the vein of ‘Shakespeare In Love’.

Brilliant, I need those! I do hope you feel you can release them.

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That said, the new figures are moving rather slowly, which is slightly surprising given the outpouring of enthusiasm and multiple sworn declarations of intent to buy that accompanied the previews on social media over several weeks.

That surprises me, they are really lovely figures and promise to be a lot fun in various games.

Come on people, buy stuff! You know you want to!

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Heck, even just showing what other Bloody Miniatures would work well in the 1610s-20s?

Yes, doing a few of those even as we speak  :)

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Hurrah!

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Here are a couple of examples I happen to have been working on... :)

A lot of the Bloody ECW / TYW figures are perfectly suitable for the earlier period, especially the figures wearing tabbed doublets. There are a fair few of these sprinkled through the range. All the figures in 'The Ragged Trayned Band' for instance - except for the one in the characteristic ECW montero, who would require a head swap.

You could probably also get away with using all the figures in the short 'soldier's coat', which was a shortish uniform jacket - a slightly longer but much simplified version of the doublet, and a step along the road to the long, more enveloping Dutch or long soldier's coat, which morphed into the uniformed frock coat which clothed armies from the 1660s through to around the 1770s, when turnback tails, short coatees, and other cut back forms started to take over.

But in terms of the transition from the 1610s to the 1640s, I doubt there was a hard stop where doublets suddenly gave way to jackets. Fashions evolve over time. Nick, the sculptor, has given most of the new Jacobean era figures stand-up collars or 'whisks' and long boot hose tied up with garter wraps, just as a way of differentiating the figures somewhat from the slightly later period. But these styles would not have been worn by everyone, high to low. Basic breeches, stockings and latchet shoes (or boots) would have been worn by many people.

Buff coats were certainly around in the 1600 - 1620 period. It's just that they have a distinctively (iconic) ECW look because they're so closely associated with that conflict and era.

The cassock or 'casaque' - which could be worn as a cloak, tabard or riding coat, with sleeves on or off, all depending on how one buttoned it - appears to have been fashionable from the 1630's onwards, so probably just a wee bit too late for the Jacobean period. But I doubt anyone is able to say for sure.

Anyway, here are some examples...
One of the 'Squire's Men' with his antique fowling piece and tabbed doublet, with a morion head swapped onto his body, and with the addition of a Green Stuff plume.
And a couple of the armoured pikemen, equipped with the tufted partizans from 'The Bluff Soldiers' set, and with added plumes.



A fairly quick and easy way of filling out one's force of Yeomen of the Guard / Gentlemen Pensioners... I think they all fit together reasonably well?





Next up, I've used one of the 'Bloody Practitioners' (gunners and engineers) as an all purpose thug or houndmaster, putting one of the cudgels from 'The Bloody Hounds' weapons sprue into his open hands.







And here, just for comparison, are two of the same houndmaster figure - one painted as a soldier armed with a halberd, the other as a civvie armed with a cudgel.



I've got a few more on the go, which I'll share once finished.




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nice

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Perfect - just the ticket :D

 

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