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Offline Emir of Askaristan

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2022, 09:27:05 AM »
Interesting read through.

I've used Pikemans lament for several Jacobite games including a refight of Prestonpans. The latter ending up very close to its historical result.

I think these rules would be suitable for most Jacobite battles - things rarely seem to have gone to plan and the highland units were difficult to control and co-ordinate and the wild charge and initiative rules from PL mirror that fairly well. But they might prove frustrating to the government side too reflecting some dreadful command choices which were made by them, eg at Prestonpans, Falkirk, and during earlier campaigns. Culloden is an example of everything going right for the government, something that should have happened more, but clearly didn't.

Whatever rules you use it's good to see the Jacobites on the table and you've got some lovely figures too.....more please!

Offline has.been

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2022, 12:10:32 PM »
Thanks Emir. :)

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Whatever rules you use it's good to see the Jacobites on the table and you've got some lovely figures too.....more please!

Oh do not worry, we have loads more to do. lol lol lol

Offline CapnJim

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2022, 10:34:30 PM »
It depends just ho picky you want to be.
As far as the Highlanders go I have mixed in ECW figures, & even a renaissance figure or two.
I don't think many of the Government troops for 1745 could be substituted by 1689 figures.
It also depends on scale. The smaller the figure the more you can get away with.
There are some very nice 2mm figures coming onto the market. I have only seen Ancients
so far, but the whole of Culloden could be nicely done with those. No detailed tartans. :D 

I suspected as much.  Thanks for your guidance!
"Remember - Incoming Fire Has the Right-of-Way"

Offline has.been

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2022, 05:17:08 AM »
Honest Cpt. is is not difficult.
1) Paint the kilt a base colour, e.g. Mid Green.
2) Paint stripes with a contrasting colour, e.g. Red.
    (I don't paint nearly enough stripes, but it looks OK in a unit/clan)
     I normally do about three horizontal stripes (one in the middle,
     one near the bottom & one near the top of the kilt.
     Then some vertical stripes. I usually start on one hip & work around
     spacing them out. Any errors in spacing are normally lost under an arm/shield/sword etc.
     If you do a fairly light shade for your base colour (stage '1') the stripes can be done
     with gel pens.
3) Draw some fine lines through the 'boxes' formed by the horizontal & vertical stripes.
    Do this with a white gel pen, black (indelible) pen, or even a sharp 2B pencil.
4) On a (very) few figures in the unit, put 'dots' of a dark colour where the horizontal
     & vertical lines cross. Again with gel pens if you are not confident about your
    fine detail brush work.
5) Leave it all do dry (I leave it for at least a day, often more if I am waiting for a nice
     dry British day  lol) and spray varnish it. This will protect the gel pen ink &, if you
     have used a 2B pencil, turn the pencil line into Black.
6) Optional, spray it Matt Varnish (when the gloss is well dry) for a more fabrick look.

It really does take less time to do a group of say half a dozen, than  for me to type this. :D

Give it a try. Highlanders  are great in skirmish games too, & for that 3,4,5 or 6 will do.

Offline Zingara

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2022, 05:44:16 PM »
Glad to see you all enjoying yourselves. Just need a few more Jacobites and you'll be needing a bigger extension :-). Look forward to hearing more exploits in the weeks to come.

Offline CapnJim

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2022, 07:41:43 PM »
Honest Cpt. is is not difficult.
1) Paint the kilt a base colour, e.g. Mid Green.
2) Paint stripes with a contrasting colour, e.g. Red.
    (I don't paint nearly enough stripes, but it looks OK in a unit/clan)
     I normally do about three horizontal stripes (one in the middle,
     one near the bottom & one near the top of the kilt.
     Then some vertical stripes. I usually start on one hip & work around
     spacing them out. Any errors in spacing are normally lost under an arm/shield/sword etc.
     If you do a fairly light shade for your base colour (stage '1') the stripes can be done
     with gel pens.
3) Draw some fine lines through the 'boxes' formed by the horizontal & vertical stripes.
    Do this with a white gel pen, black (indelible) pen, or even a sharp 2B pencil.
4) On a (very) few figures in the unit, put 'dots' of a dark colour where the horizontal
     & vertical lines cross. Again with gel pens if you are not confident about your
    fine detail brush work.
5) Leave it all do dry (I leave it for at least a day, often more if I am waiting for a nice
     dry British day  lol) and spray varnish it. This will protect the gel pen ink &, if you
     have used a 2B pencil, turn the pencil line into Black.
6) Optional, spray it Matt Varnish (when the gloss is well dry) for a more fabrick look.

It really does take less time to do a group of say half a dozen, than  for me to type this. :D

Give it a try. Highlanders  are great in skirmish games too, & for that 3,4,5 or 6 will do.

Thanks for the tip.  I just may give some a whack!

Offline has.been

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2022, 05:48:44 AM »
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Glad to see you all enjoying yourselves. Just need a few more Jacobites and you'll be needing a bigger extension :-). Look forward to hearing more exploits in the weeks to come.

I don't NEED a bigger room.
I DO NEED to get rid of surplus stuff,
so who's interested in... :D :D :D

Offline rumacara

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2022, 07:34:29 AM »
Well, if you have a surplus of highlanders from Front Rank or government troops i wouldnt mind to have some. Need to complete my forces.

Looking forward for more pictures/games.

Offline has.been

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2022, 09:08:11 AM »
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Well, if you have a surplus of highlanders from Front Rank or government troops i wouldnt mind to have some. Need to complete my forces.

I do have a pile of unpainted Jacobites (Flags of War & other manufacturers)
but those I need. There are spare Government figures (Unpainted) that I
don't need. If you are interested I'll sort out some details & maybe pictures.
I have a surplus of Horse & Musket period wagons, painted & unpainted too.

Offline SirRoystonPapworth

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2022, 06:55:28 PM »
Looks a cracking game.

Regarding the rules, did you allow units to fire in any direction?  It's one of the rules that I find ruin the game (yes, I know I can house rule this..)

Offline has.been

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2022, 07:20:52 PM »
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Regarding the rules, did you allow units to fire in any direction?  It's one of the rules that I find ruin the game (yes, I know I can house rule this..)

We say shooting is forward & volley shooting is (almost) straight forward.  :D

Offline rumacara

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2022, 10:15:30 AM »
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I do have a pile of unpainted Jacobites (Flags of War & other manufacturers)
but those I need. There are spare Government figures (Unpainted) that I
don't need. If you are interested I'll sort out some details & maybe pictures.
I have a surplus of Horse & Musket period wagons, painted & unpainted too.

Pm sent. :)

Offline has.been

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Re: Jacobites using Rebels & Patriots.
« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2022, 03:50:49 PM »
I tried sticking the pictures (of my surplus figures)
onto the PM, but couldn't work out how to,
so am putting them on here. PM me Rumacara
if they are of interest to you.

15 Dragoons & 20 Grenadiers.

 

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