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Author Topic: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s  (Read 2504 times)

Offline Smokeyrone

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Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« on: July 12, 2022, 08:31:56 PM »
What would the Spanish look like in this period.  I'm talking 'but regulars, irregulars, maybe from Cuba, that would be bad guys in any Florida/Seminole Wars theme. (Think "Distant Drums" gun runners and fort holders.

What figures? 

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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2022, 10:24:48 PM »
Some probably would still be similar to spanish guerrillas from the Napoleonic period. Others may have looked like sailors from the period.
Look at these Northstar figures for Musket and Tomahawks as an example and think of them with long trousers.

For uniformed figures perhaps use some Front Rank spanish uniformed militia (lots of these units would be used in the colonies).

Also worth checking Boot Hill miniatures range for some mexican hidalgos with guns (mexico was a spanish colony so their clothes where based on spanish ones).

If you want to use european/american figures you cant go wrong with Boot Hill miniatures wich is the same period as the Alamo and the Texan War of Independence.

I have some of these Northstar spanish guerrillas and will convert some for the Texan War of Independence as mexican sailors.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2022, 10:40:02 PM by rumacara »

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2022, 11:04:21 PM »
I suspect that the Perry Carlist Wars armed civilians are the closest you’ll get in terms of contemporary Spanish fashions.

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product-category/metal-ranges/carlist-war/carlists/page/2/
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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2022, 03:09:39 AM »
Thanks guys, good stuff

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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2022, 07:56:41 PM »
Historically I believe the Spanish were gone by the 1820's but hey you can do historical any way you want. I lot of people do that here anymore. lol
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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2022, 08:44:09 PM »
Historically I believe the Spanish were gone by the 1820's but hey you can do historical any way you want. I lot of people do that here anymore. lol
Mark

Distant Drums. Lol

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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2022, 08:52:39 PM »
I've seen the movie but don't remember any Spaniards. Getting old and senile I guess. lol lol
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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2022, 05:50:33 PM »
I've seen the movie but don't remember any Spaniards. Getting old and senile I guess. lol lol
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They took the St Augustine  fort from Spanish gunrunners
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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2022, 06:02:36 PM »
Yes Spanish gunrunners, smugglers, not regular troops ,militia.
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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2022, 08:46:48 PM »
Yes Spanish gunrunners, smugglers, not regular troops ,militia.
Mark

Well then, what figures?  :)  my  stockpile of Old Glory pirates seem accurate?

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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2022, 03:22:23 AM »
Surely you need a bloke in a dark suit with an M203? IIRC Studio Miniatures produce such a miniature.  ;)

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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2022, 12:55:31 PM »
All the suggestions are quite correct for miniatures. I run a similar project and use also Trent Miniatures Maroons for both Florida and Cuban blacks. Even if the Kingdom of Spain was done in Florida, the ordinary people stayed there. And the Cubans were very active across the sea.

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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2022, 04:30:49 PM »
No worries on having Spanish Regulars in the 1830s.  Perhaps a "What if..." kind of thing...

Although if my memory serves my correctly, the presence of an M203 (his "little friend") is a tad early for the 1830s... :D
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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2022, 07:39:52 PM »
In Distant Drums, the regulars wore Rough Rider uniforms and carried Krags, in the 1840s, lol

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Re: Spanish in Florida/Americas 1830-1850s
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2022, 11:50:04 PM »
No worries on having Spanish Regulars in the 1830s.  Perhaps a "What if..." kind of thing...

Although if my memory serves my correctly, the presence of an M203 (his "little friend") is a tad early for the 1830s... :D

But thematically in keeping.  I mean the whole subtext of that film is the Cuban/ Spanish revenge on the old Estados Unidos and the latifundistas resident in Florida. Ultimately Fidel's plan was deeply flawed though. Releasing hundreds of mental patients and petty crooks into Florida was always going to go barely unnoticed.  Hombre en Florida..........  ;)

Foundry have some 'maroons' in their pirate range which are probably pretty good to go. Musket armed, shirtsleeves and a variety of headwear including straw hats.

 

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