Black Tree Design Miniatures

[steve29651]

All the other threads appear closed, with only bad reviews about this company.

I have had several emails from them offering figures in various sales, some hinting that they had cleaned up their act.  I placed a small order of Historical Figures I needed to complete ranges.  Given what has happened in the past I was not holding any great hope.  However within two and a half weeks my full order arrived(Only£29 worth).

This was a UK order not US, I am pleased but given past history will wait and see, it does give some hope to wargamers who like the figures but not the past service.

Steve M

[Elbows]

I'm glad you received your order, however, I'm not interested in giving poor companies a second chance - regardless of value.  I've had a suitably bad experience with them in the past and thus they're off the list.

[Luigi]

Mostly I'm disappointed that since re-doing their site they no longer offer the full range of miniatures they did.
particularly their dwarf line has lost a few units I wanted to buy more of

[Digits]

I finally received this week a few packs of Afrika Korps I ordered from them at the beginning of November…..only taken them four months….they must be pulling themselves together! 😉

[katie]

"their dwarf line has lost a few units "

I think some of the line may have been acquired here:

https://www.seb-games.com/store/product-category/battle-havoc/kingdoms-of-dwarves/

Certainly the musketeers and hammerers appear to be there.

[Luigi]

"their dwarf line has lost a few units "

I think some of the line may have been acquired here:

https://www.seb-games.com/store/product-category/battle-havoc/kingdoms-of-dwarves/

Certainly the musketeers and hammerers appear to be there.

Thank you for the most useful link. But this only solve half the mystery.

BTD used to sell 2 different lines of "Ironclad dwarfs"
One is the same as the ones in your link.

The other was sold as a regiment of 20 (I think) figures that while having an entry, never had a picture on their website. I've messaged BTD about it a few times, never getting am answer.

I messaged the guy who managed the stunties wiki years ago and all I got was him wanting to make an offer to buy mine since he never saw them before.
I also remember finding a regiment of them for sale on some polish auction site.

But never found much more about them

I have attached an old picture that shows the ones I'm talking about. It's the ones that are clad in metal starting from the second rank.

[Cosmotiger]

I believe EOE Orbis is the American branch of Black Tree. I don’t know all the details, but they appear to be a separate company run by different people, but producing and selling the same lines in the US. I’ve had universally good experiences ordering from them, unlike their UK counterparts.

[Cat]

I believe EOE Orbis is the American branch of Black Tree.

Yes, EOE Orbis is perfectly fine to deal with.

[katie]

Fascinating. I don't remember having seen those dwarfs before.

Somewhere I have a Black Tree Miniatures catalogue on paper from back when they did them, I wonder if there's pictures of them in there. I'll see if I can dig it out.

[katie]

Now. That is interesting. This stapled catalogue lists two sets, but doesn't have pictures:

FA77942 Dwarf Ironclads (18)
FA7951 Ironclad Dwarves (18)

The catalogue design is listed as 2002, by Dean Edwards who is still the UK side of the company I think.

I'm sure I have loose leaf catalogue pages from earlier somewhere but I can't locate them.

[Elbows]

Gotta step in and say my bad experience was with Black Tree Design in the U.S. (i.e. EOE Orbis or whatever).  So not "completely fine".