Perry's WWII US infantry box

[blacksmith]

I wanted to try the new Vallejo Game Wash Dipping Formula. I was very exited that finally there was an acrylic dipping, so I tried on some US infantry that I also wanted to paint and here is the result. But I have to say that I did not quite like the final result so I added quick lights all over the figures to cover the yellowy finish except on the brown trousers.


I must say that this dipping is not like Minwax nor even as Army Painter as it stains a bit too much and it is not as dark. I'd say is more a wash than a dipping. Actually, there are already people using it as a substitute for GW's Devlan Mud because they say it gets similar results, it contains the equivalent of 8-9 bottles of Devlan and it is much cheaper. 8 euros for 200 ml.

The product has a good consistency for being acrylic and smells good, but sitll drips slightly faster than oil based, and sometimes top parts are not properly covered. Besides, as I say, it stains the surface too much for my taste and it is not dark enough. So far there is only Sepia and Black.


This is also the first time I paint some Perry's miniatures. The figures are well proportioned and look very natural although I'd love to see a little more definition on them, but the box is a bargain with 42 figures in it.


I did a comparative picture with some 1/72 Italeri figures, painted with Betumen of Judea and some lights, and you can see the difference in how detailed are the small ones compared to the Perrys. I'm also painting the next batch with Betumen of Judea and uploading somep pics here for you to see the difference in dipping.

[Tom Dulski]

 Did you actually dip them or brush it on? Also would it possible to show a picture of one with it on and now without so that we can see exactly how much it stains?

[blacksmith]

Did you actually dip them or brush it on? Also would it possible to show a picture of one with it on and now without so that we can see exactly how much it stains?

I dipped them. Sorry but nope. I thought about that just right after painting them. But I can tell you the finish was sepia, so it is good for skeletons or brownish colours, but not for greens and other hues IMHO. I won't use it again as I prefer my own home made mix.

However, you can see in the following video a nice result of this dipping on a figure, but my experience was a bit different although I did the very same dipping. My figures had the same finish you can see on the white border of the video's base of the figure, sepia. Also, it wasn't much contrast, but maybe this is because Perrys are rather soft.
https://youtu.be/cat3c-iJNLg

[Tom Dulski]

 Very interesting, I'm tempted to try this. I have a platoon of G.I.'s finished and ready. I was going to use the army painter quick shade to finish them off but this might be a better alternative. I like that it's acrylic rather than oil based. 

[blacksmith]

Very interesting, I'm tempted to try this. I have a platoon of G.I.'s finished and ready. I was going to use the army painter quick shade to finish them off but this might be a better alternative. I like that it's acrylic rather than oil based.

Yes, and it is cheap as well; Vallejo is 8€ and Army Painter is 25€.
Cheers,

[dickiegranthum]

Yes, and it is cheap as well; Vallejo is 8€ and Army Painter is 25€.
Cheers,

The Army Painter is a totally different kind of product, and you get quite a bit more in the tin.

I’ve used both of these, and if you like the end result, I find the Army Painter urethane is far better. Doesn’t stain as was mentioned about the Vallejo, and once dullcoated, your minis are near indestructible.

I built a massive French Naps army with Victrix, Perry, and others - I could build, paint and finish a regiment a weekend using the Army Painter. Really enjoyed the project. Also did a 2000 point Skaven army (pre-Sigmar), in a month. Crazy fast, crazy decent!

Not going to lie: since the GW contrast paints came out, I like those a lot for this style of fast painting.

[FriendlyNeighbourhoodNerd]

I hadn't heard of these new Vallejo washes, but personally I think I'll keep using my regular washes as I've always done.

Just popped in to say - the Perry figures look real nice! Great paintjobs, although some more definition on these sculpts would be nicer indeed, I imagine the metals are a bit better in this regard. I'm gonna be getting a box of GIs too, for North Africa.

Keep it up!

[Tom Dulski]

The Army Painter is a totally different kind of product, and you get quite a bit more in the tin.

I’ve used both of these, and if you like the end result, I find the Army Painter urethane is far better. Doesn’t stain as was mentioned about the Vallejo, and once dullcoated, your minis are near indestructible.

I built a massive French Naps army with Victrix, Perry, and others - I could build, paint and finish a regiment a weekend using the Army Painter. Really enjoyed the project. Also did a 2000 point Skaven army (pre-Sigmar), in a month. Crazy fast, crazy decent!

Not going to lie: since the GW contrast paints came out, I like those a lot for this style of fast painting.

 One of the problems I find with the Army Painter is that no matter how tightly you close the lid after each use the product becomes thicker and more solid. I find that I never get to use more than half the can before it's useless. That said it does make you figures pretty much indestructible and you will never have to worry about paint chipping or your friends cheesy Dorito fingers messing up your minis.

[blacksmith]

I hadn't heard of these new Vallejo washes, but personally I think I'll keep using my regular washes as I've always done.

Just popped in to say - the Perry figures look real nice! Great paintjobs, although some more definition on these sculpts would be nicer indeed, I imagine the metals are a bit better in this regard. I'm gonna be getting a box of GIs too, for North Africa.

Keep it up!

Thank you! Perrys are good but now my eyes are fixed on the new Victrix's.

[dickiegranthum]

 One of the problems I find with the Army Painter is that no matter how tightly you close the lid after each use the product becomes thicker and more solid. I find that I never get to use more than half the can before it's useless. That said it does make you figures pretty much indestructible and you will never have to worry about paint chipping or your friends cheesy Dorito fingers messing up your minis.

I didn’t have a problem with the tins, but many did. Always opened with a paint can opener, no dents resulted, cleaned the lid, and used a rubber mallet to reseal. Just like I would a can of housepaint. 100% no-failure!

Anyway, the US infantry look great!

[eilif]

That wash is a very interesting product. Thanks for the review. Might check out out though I've had very good luck with Minwax over the years and have gotten pretty good with it.

[blacksmith]

That wash is a very interesting product. Thanks for the review. Might check out out though I've had very good luck with Minwax over the years and have gotten pretty good with it.

I'd would stick to Minwax if I could.
Cheers,

[Tom Dulski]

 Are you talking about the minimax that you use on wood floors?

[blacksmith]

Are you talking about the minimax that you use on wood floors?

Yes. Minwax Polyshades with polyurethane. This one: https://tasawuk.com/stain-polyurethane-in-1-5/?srsltid=AfmBOorWLCd8X1t490zImEWwfegVOhn0m6kieZoezlbecggC8QOnhOLM

I've never try it but from what I've seen it is the best dipping, better than Army Painter, and much cheaper.

[dickiegranthum]

Yes. Minwax Polyshades with polyurethane. This one: https://tasawuk.com/stain-polyurethane-in-1-5/?srsltid=AfmBOorWLCd8X1t490zImEWwfegVOhn0m6kieZoezlbecggC8QOnhOLM

I've never try it but from what I've seen it is the best dipping, better than Army Painter, and much cheaper.

I’ve tried MinWax vs Army Painter, and, for me, the Army Painter was superior. Better shading, more consistent, and brushing on was fine. I don’t “dip”.

Despite the cost difference, I would stand by Army Painter.