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Offline Sangennaru

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First tries with stone walls
« on: 20 December 2009, 11:41:14 PM »
Hi everyone. This evening, bored by making berlin buildings, I decided to try this techique that i really don't master, and that's what turned out:

carving the stones took around 1 hour, and 30 minutes to paint it (maybe a bit more).

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it was funny to make, but I'm not really satisfied on the result... any suggestions? :)

Offline Dewbakuk

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Re: First tries with stone walls
« Reply #1 on: 21 December 2009, 12:25:21 AM »
Other than the horizontal lines running between the three parts I'd say it looks great. The only thing I'd suggest if you continued down this route would be to use a single piece for carving that much area.

What material did you carve into?
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Re: First tries with stone walls
« Reply #2 on: 21 December 2009, 12:34:47 AM »
I agree, the horizontal lines where the sheets of material meet is visible, when it shouldn’t have to be. You have multiple lines running horizontally already and you could have made the meeting points into another one of those, other then that it looks very good.
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Re: First tries with stone walls
« Reply #3 on: 21 December 2009, 08:48:18 AM »
One thing that'd make it look better, would to have marked the arch-stones over the door way, that would make the piece look a lot more believable even though many people don't think of it immediately.

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Re: First tries with stone walls
« Reply #4 on: 21 December 2009, 09:29:16 AM »
Did you carve the bits separately then glue them together. If so, that is maybe why the lines are so noticeable. Glue all the pieces together then scribe the stonework, lets you hide some of the joints. You can also hide them some more with some plaster.
Apart from that I think it looks great :D

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Re: First tries with stone walls
« Reply #5 on: 21 December 2009, 10:02:06 AM »
thanks everyone for suggestion...

I hate the thee-pieces-effect, but unfortunately is impossible to find a bigger piece of styrofoam here in Milan... :( I'll make more orizzontal lines, to hide the joint

Did you carve the bits separately then glue them together.

no I glued them before... Unfortunately, the pva glue is too hard to be carved, so I had to leave the line. I will try something different


(I'm triyng to copy wolfgang's technique, but is pretty hard, I need some pratice! :P)

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Re: First tries with stone walls
« Reply #6 on: 21 December 2009, 10:42:31 AM »
Hi

OK, the opening does not work at all - either You make an arch and clearly mark it out like in the picture or You have it straight and then a one-piece slab would be there - otherwise it would collapse

the three piece effect - not necessarily a problem
irregular stonework like You chose to represent always has levelling inserts of same size irregular or regular stones or bricks. This is necessary to even out the pressure of the weight

so if You simply break it up again and insert two regular lines  it's done.
Also usual but not necessary is the lowest level made by bigger and sometimes more regular slabs, again to even out the pressure
But these can sometimes be buried in the ground and thus not visible

the arch You can do by simply covering the curved section with soft cardboard - archwork occasionaly protrudes beyond the wall surface - don't forget the big cornerstones

if You want to keep it generic, no need to spend more thoughts on it - if You want to do it especially for a certain period, things get more complicated.
The medieval wall You did is accurate, however it would have been covered with plaster and painted. Thus You could add some leftover plaster patches of an untended wall. Colour chalkish white or clay yellowish (generic)

OK, enough  ;) 8)

Offline BattlePenguin

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Re: First tries with stone walls
« Reply #7 on: 13 July 2011, 12:10:04 AM »
thanks everyone for suggestion...

I hate the thee-pieces-effect, but unfortunately is impossible to find a bigger piece of styrofoam here in Milan... :( I'll make more orizzontal lines, to hide the joint

no I glued them before... Unfortunately, the pva glue is too hard to be carved, so I had to leave the line. I will try something different


(I'm triyng to copy wolfgang's technique, but is pretty hard, I need some pratice! :P)

cheers
Jack


Sorry I am late to the party on this one, but shop bought pizzas often have a useful foam disk that keeps the pizza from flopping in the package. This is Depron foam and is a great detailing material. Clad your building carcases with it and then cut the window holes out anf then with a semi blunt lead pencil draw the stone courses in.

You can use sculpting tools to impart nicks and scrathes etc and slo use sand paper to create rougher finishes.

And you get to buy more pizzas YAY!!!!!

 

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