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Offline Arthur

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Re: conquest of Algeria 1830-1870
« Reply #15 on: 10 April 2011, 07:55:47 PM »
Looks to me like a member of the volunteer Koulouglis battalion raised in 1836 to defend Tlemcen. The Koulouglis were a local community of mixed decent (half Amazigh and half Turkish, allegedly descended from the Janissaries).     

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Re: conquest of Algeria 1830-1870
« Reply #16 on: 10 April 2011, 08:18:47 PM »
Excellent! thanks

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Re: conquest of Algeria 1830-1870
« Reply #17 on: 10 April 2011, 08:26:01 PM »
You're welcome. That's about all the information I have and I don't know what became of the battalion after the evacuation of Tlemcen in 1837 : the unit was probably disbanded, although it may have continued to exist in some form. Paco may know more about the Koulouglis than I do, though, so maybe he'll come along with additional info.

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Re: conquest of Algeria 1830-1870
« Reply #18 on: 10 April 2011, 08:31:27 PM »
Where could you find info on such a unit? French literature?

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Re: conquest of Algeria 1830-1870
« Reply #19 on: 10 April 2011, 09:03:42 PM »
Definitely.

There's not a huge amount of English-language material on the conquest of Algeria by the French, and obscure units such as the Koulouglis will only be mentioned in long out-of-print French books and periodicals. Since these publications are mostly copyright free now, they may occasionally appear in scanned form on the net and it's sometimes amazing what a Google search can turn up.     

If you can read French, here's where I found most of what I know about the Koulouglis

http://aj.garcia.free.fr/Livret4/L4p94-95.htm

http://aj.garcia.free.fr/Livret4/PageGardeLivret4.htm



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Re: conquest of Algeria 1830-1870
« Reply #20 on: 10 April 2011, 09:10:33 PM »
No French, but google translate is my friend  ;)

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Re: conquest of Algeria 1830-1870
« Reply #21 on: 14 April 2011, 10:29:19 AM »
Patrice, would love to hear your list of book recommendations for Western Soudan (Mali)
If you can read French, the main source is Gallica (the French National Library online) http://gallica.bnf.fr/

Free downloads. Lots of photos too.

Begin with "Voyage au Soudan Français" (cdt Gallieni).
Or "Les Francais au Niger" (Pietri) for an overall view 1855-1883 and many ethnic details.
Find other books with "Soudan" research.
Have a look at "La Marine au Niger" (lt de vaisseau Caron), on the last page there is the plan of a funny very small gunboat.

Back to topic : there are also lots of pics and books about Algeria on this website.

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Re: conquest of Algeria 1830-1870
« Reply #22 on: 14 April 2011, 12:23:29 PM »
Patrice, thanks!

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Re: conquest of Algeria 1830-1870
« Reply #23 on: 14 April 2011, 04:17:35 PM »
Hello, and thank you for your interest.
Concerning the koulouglis (sons of turcs soldiers and arabs  women), i didn't found other text about them! Just that they were engaged in the new zouaves regiments and more after, "tirailleur indigènes".

regards
paco

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Re: conquest of Algeria 1830-1870
« Reply #24 on: 14 April 2011, 06:05:02 PM »
I just researched "Koulouglis" on the Gallica website, they seem to be mentioned in many books (in French).
« Last Edit: 14 April 2011, 06:09:33 PM by Patrice »

 

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