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Offline Silent Invader

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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« on: 18 January 2011, 02:37:39 PM »
I am looking into building a tunnel complex that will have in-built lighting.

This old TMP post

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=42954

mentions something called Light Sheet that sounds like it'd do thejob for subdued corridor lighting.

Trouble is, my google-fu is failing me...... the TMP post is the only hobby reference I can find.  Can anyone else illuminate me?  (did you see what I did there?  ;D)


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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #1 on: 18 January 2011, 02:48:45 PM »
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(did you see what I did there?   ;D

Yes....  ;)

The light sheet doesn't really work that well, unless you want a barely visable dull glow.

The linky below is for the electrical company we use and you can pick up anything there, they even have a technical helpline which can be quite useful

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/?cm_mmc=UK-PPC-_-google-_-0_RS%20Brand-_-RS_Exact&gclid=CNj7iaj_w6YCFUYe4QodrBhaIA

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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #2 on: 18 January 2011, 03:03:07 PM »
if you have time, the led options would be the best.
but you need to cable the whole diorama with metal wires, that's annoying.

why don't you make also some tubes with cold smoke? you just need a ultrasonic water boiler, it is perfectely safe and cheap to make - buy, and you can make smoke in your tunnels too (it is cold smoke, so it remains on the lower level!

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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #3 on: 18 January 2011, 05:33:27 PM »
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(JB.... looking at you!   ;D

I'm looking back  ;D

Yes, I've used them a few times before. What you have to take into consideration is the source light and what it is housed in. I don't know how much room you've got but you will need the light in a box with either holes or a fan so the heat doesn't build up. Most fibre optics come already bundled so you don't have to worry about that (you should be able to choose the size of the ends, opposit to the light source aswell ie: single optic, bundle of 10 etc.).

The optics don't have a great bending radius so you won't be able to bend them at 90 degrees etc.

If you want I'll see what we have here and let you have some to play with  :)

Your idea sounds perfectly feasible but the only thing as I mentioned before is the space you have 'outside'.

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James
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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #4 on: 19 January 2011, 06:03:11 PM »
Keep us updated how you go. I'll be watching this very careful, I'm looking to add similar effects to a Mega City 1 board I'm putting together.

I rejected the light sheet as too expensive, too dull a light and have started fiddling around with LEDs but will be interested to see how you get on.

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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #5 on: 19 January 2011, 10:39:58 PM »
if you have time, the led options would be the best.
but you need to cable the whole diorama with metal wires, that's annoying.

why don't you make also some tubes with cold smoke? you just need a ultrasonic water boiler, it is perfectely safe and cheap to make - buy, and you can make smoke in your tunnels too (it is cold smoke, so it remains on the lower level!
I have to ask what is cold smoke? And how do you make it?
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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #6 on: 19 January 2011, 10:46:53 PM »
I have to ask what is cold smoke? And how do you make it?

I think it's when you have a cigarette outside in the winter...

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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #7 on: 19 January 2011, 10:49:11 PM »
I think it's when you have a cigarette outside in the winter...
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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #8 on: 20 January 2011, 07:10:41 AM »
I have to ask what is cold smoke? And how do you make it?
Duncan

i don't know the name in english... there is a ultrasonic vibration that makes water evaporate without high temperature . it is used for umidificators! ^^

but maybe a smoke machine could work better! ;)


it was just a guess... i think it is quite hard to make it work on a tabletop!!

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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #9 on: 20 January 2011, 02:46:39 PM »
I have to ask what is cold smoke? And how do you make it?
Duncan

I believe he means a fog machine like one of these.
http://www.halloweeneffects.us/Fog_Machine_Sale_24_s/22.htm?gclid=CM7P2-uCyaYCFRBzgwodCgSQJA
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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #10 on: 20 January 2011, 05:01:41 PM »
Uhh, no, those are the heavy duty versions, used to create fog in, let's say, a concert hall. ;)
There are smaller ones like -this- (sorry, I just took the link to a German site, but I think you'll get the meaning), and as Sangennaru said, they work with water and not a special fluid. You'll still be able to see the rest of your gaming room, as it wouldn't be the case with those big fog machines.
Hope this helps ;)
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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #11 on: 20 January 2011, 07:51:52 PM »

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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #12 on: 20 January 2011, 08:26:03 PM »
Seeing as we use a lot of waterbased paints and glues, how do the miniatures and terrain hold up to the water mist after many uses?

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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #13 on: 20 January 2011, 08:27:34 PM »
A small piece of dry ice goes a long way.  Just drop it in a cup of water and watch it work.

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Re: Terrain lighting: Light sheet, leds, fibreoptics
« Reply #14 on: 20 January 2011, 09:27:06 PM »
Seeing as we use a lot of waterbased paints and glues, how do the miniatures and terrain hold up to the water mist after many uses?
A small piece of dry ice goes a long way.  Just drop it in a cup of water and watch it work.

yes, true... i was thinking about the wetting too... but it still looks too cool!

for the dry ice... it is the best solution of course, but... do you have it? it is almost impossible to find it here...

 

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