Kampfgruppe Normandy - a Short Review

[Agis]

Agis, May well pick yours up, if only for the pictures! Im a sucker for pictures...

You are welcome! 

[Rich J]

true ... it's a better game than RF I think ... bit more too it.
No spy cameras, just talking to Shawn etc   

When you have done some I'd be happy to chime in with thoughts you know that

[Foxxxy66]

I have this book and am mightily impressed by the succinct ruleset. Army lists and copious scenarios are an integral vital component to this fine game. Very fast to pick up, super mechanics - really like it.

[V]

When you have done some I'd be happy to chime in with thoughts you know that

Roger that rubber ducky!

Hope to start serious work on it once the Cold War book is finished.

[Rich J]

Cool
Like the new little tweaks so far to the rules - going to give it an afghan run out when the new supplement arrives.

[lone_gunmen]

This game looks great. Been a big fan of the Warhammer Historical books, they're very nicely presented.

What miniatures would be best for it?

[Axebreaker]

This game looks great. Been a big fan of the Warhammer Historical books, they're very nicely presented.

What miniatures would be best for it?

It's written with 20mm in mind, but like most systems you can play it at whatever scale with just a few tweeks.
I play Disposable Hero's in 28mm which I quite like as the play is fast and easy. However, I do wish it was in hardback with some fluff and pics as I like that in my rule books. Probably why I really like all the Warhammer historical books.
I'm curious about the book, but like many the price tag has me concerned. I think it's probably worth it as all Warhammer Historical books and FW are excellent quality, but 48 pounds is still something that needs thought beforehand.

Nice review btw.

Christopher

[Galland]

I would love to try this game out, but as many others, I cant justify to pay that price for a book, when half of it is background stuff that I allready know or have better sources for my self. It is the same with many other game books with rules though, it feels like they allways need to include some historical stuff to justify their book. It silly really.
The only thing I could think of that would be nice, would be some painting guides for the people not that knowledgable or that dont have access to extensive material them self.
However, it was nice to read about this, and you might have persuaded me to actually start thinking about getting the book after all, at least for the rules section :O)

[Agis]

I would love to try this game out, but as many others, I cant justify to pay that price for a book, when half of it is background stuff that I allready know or have better sources for my self. It is the same with many other game books with rules though, it feels like they allways need to include some historical stuff to justify their book. It silly really.

A pleasure to hear it. That was EXACTLY my thought when writing Victory Decision, fluff free rules and army lists!

[Paleskin]

Good review,might give it a go sometime......forty eight quid price tag it needs to be bloody good though!

[V]

I would love to try this game out, but as many others, I cant justify to pay that price for a book, when half of it is background stuff that I allready know or have better sources for my self. It is the same with many other game books with rules though, it feels like they allways need to include some historical stuff to justify their book. It silly really.

Well its not silly if you dont know the historical stuff.

Two mates of mine knew nothing of the period, bought the book, and have now started armies.

The fact that it came with all the historical information was a huge bonus to them.

[syrinx0]

We played a quick game last weekend.  It was a real change from our usual WWII rules - Tractics. There just weren't enough charts to look at.

It did really play fast, the command points added a bit more suspense to the turns as did rolling every round to observe your target. Having an uncanny knack for rolling 1's I came to the conclusion my gun crews (who didn't notice the tanks rolling over their position) must have been drunk and napping.  I'm hopeful our next game will turn out better for me.

The book is very nicely put together and since some one else bought the rules I and just fine with the price.

[theoldschool]

Like all rules, it depends what you like. For platoon/company level my rules of choice is IABSM from the TooFatLardies stable, no fluff just a cracking set of rules that models perfectly the friction of warfare.

For larger games I am a long time fan of Rapid Fire and for that reason KN appeals. Dave Andrews knows the period exceptionally well and if he is willing to lend his name to the rules (albeit through images of his vast collection) then they must have a degree of credibility.

As to price, £48 isn't cheap but I have been playing Rapid Fire for many years and if KN lasts as long and gives me the game I want then it's a fair investment. I'm not picking on them, but since Victory Decision has been mentioned I'll use them as a comparison. The fifth supplement has just been published taking it to $56 for PDFs if you want to buy the lot, plus the cost of printing and binding - and at the end of the day you still don't have a high quality hardback book.

[meadowsboy]

I have not picked them up yet but probably will!

£48.00 for the complete Normandy package is good! Flames of War supplements are £30.00 and do not include the basic rules!

cheers