Cheetor's Orks: Kommando Kill Team 16/10/18

[cheetor]

They look wonderful as a band, mate.
 

Thanks Mason.  More to come.

The only catch to that is I have sold or traded almost all my Orks over the last few years.
I have kept one or two classics however, including that great Cybork Pirate, so a few will survive into a future RT project.
 

The cybork pirate is a classic.

I have heard that the orks are the second most numerous of the RT ranges (Marines being the most common obviously enough).  As the Eldar range used the same models for many years (the same Warp Spiders have been knocking around for twenty years now) loyts of them are very common too.

So you should be able to pick up a squad or two quite cheaply if you feel inclined Mason.  I only got these orks this year for example (I sold the original batch of orks that I owned back in 1999 to fund a night of clubbing  ).

Brilliant.

Thanks Warburton

As for myself, I too do not mind the newer ork plastics (though I preferred the Brian Nelson ones to whoever is sculpting them now).

Yep, they have disimproved for sure.

My main problem with them is their pose. There is something not right about the legs.

I never understood this... or well, I do understand it. In comparison with current orks they ARE small.

I think that its more than that actually.  The Adams orks are quite small even alongside human models from the era.

I would say it's the other way around. I don't like any modern orks (or orcs) as they're all ogre sized lumbering hulks with stupid "just crapped my pants" poses.

The duck arse thing is odd for sure, but beyond that strange engineering based design decision, I am quite content to have both the older style and the newer guys co-exist.  I see them as like dogs, with large morphological variation.  Conceptually I am fine with some orks being musclebound savages and others being more rounded characters.

Paul - stellar work, as always! The marauder lad doesn't look too out of place. Good job!

Thanks Mattias.  I have enough old ork grunts now, but all the same I would like to pick up the other five or six Marauder models.  I would like to paint them, rather than "need" them for a game or whatever.

I like the newer orks, they're designed around a gorilla body shape, hence the wide stance and longer arms. It's a recognised (at least subconsciously) shape that conveys power. That said, much like most of the figures they do these days they really overdo it with some of them.

Agreed on all counts Dewbakuk.  Sometimes I like my dirty scheming uncouth orks and sometimes I like my hairless green gorilla with a machine gun orks.  Its apples and oranges to an extent

[phreedh]

I think that its more than that actually.  The Adams orks are quite small even alongside human models from the era.

A-HA! As a matter of fact, it's the silly old codgers Goodwin, Copplestone, Naismith, Olley and Morrison who got it all wrong and made the humans too large.

Put an ork next to a space marine. Presto - true-scale marines. They have been there, since the eighties. Available, for a pittance. No need for modern monstrous scale creep "true-scale". We just need true-scale humans. And eldar. And uhm... yeah.

Orks and Marines are good and proper, see.

 

[cheetor]

I finished Kaptin Fiddy Teef last night, along with his sidekick Mister Scuttle.



This classic old model will be in charge of my Freebooter contingent at a convention game that I will be playing in with Whiskey Priest.  Its a classic old sculpt and it was very satisfying to paint it after trying to find an excuse to do so for a full twenty-four years.  



As a teen I thought that these pirate guys were sort of cool but a bit too "unrealistic".  Now I see them as a very good catalyst for giggles at the games table, which is a far healthier attitude.  So I guess I have made some personal progress in the last quarter of a century after all.



The cat-squig/gyrinx had an indistinct thing going on over its left eye.  I think that it might have been supposed to be an eyepatch, but I couldnt tell.  I whipped up a bionic enhancement from green stuff and styrene to lock it isn as a futuristic space pirate cat: I didnt want anyone thinking that it was a regular old 17th century pirate cat now did I?



Fiddy got his stupid name after a conversation about a gretchin that I painted recently - Notorious G.I.T..  It isnt a particularly clever reference, but the guy does have a memorable set of chompers and its easy to remember, so thats that.

More images and other details in the blog post.  Some gretchin space pirates next.

[OSHIROmodels]

Great stuff 

cheers

James

[Jonas]

Best Ork pirates I have ever seen. They have the right balance between silly and serious. I think some Ork Freebooter paintjobs tend to go over the top on sillyness.

[Blackwolf]

Wow,fantastic work

[area23]

brilliant.

[warburton]

Very nice!

[Dr. The Viking]

Fantastic!!!

[Mason]

Brilliant!
 

Fiddy Teef...

[cheetor]

Thanks for the encouragement folks.

I think some Ork Freebooter paintjobs tend to go over the top on sillyness.

I agree.   These guys are definitely pretty silly all the same though.  There is a cat with a bionic eye wearing a tricorne for example      Still if someone cant see how inherently ridiculous the 40K universe is, then I probably dont want to play games with them anyway.

The striped trousers were a bit of a gamble.  They had lots of potential to go badly wrong and look terrible but I think that they worked out alright.  I think that referencing the yellow and black hazard stripes that show up here and there on the rest of the orks helps.  The hazard line pattern was heavily over done for many years of course, but I really do still like it in certain contexts.

While it could also have been fun to put together a crew of ork pirates that looked a bit grittier, like a Merc crew out of a Riddick movie or the crew of The Betty in Alien 4, there is such a rich history of ridiculous pirate nonsense that its hard to avoid referencing it.

I also think that it would be an absolute shame to paint an ork pirate crew and leave out the cybork pirate and the Kaptin model shown above.  They have too much potential for fun.

Thansk for the feedback

[PF]

Cool stuff as usual.
No love for squigs? There were some small and funny.

[area23]

Three thoughts came to mind today.

did these pirate goblin kickstarter with Kev Adams sculpts ever became available to the public?

how is it everbody has commisioned kevin adams to do goblins the last few years but NOBODY did old school space-orks!?
I want him to make me space monkeys, something in the middle of these old orks and a Judge Dredd ape gang.

The two freebooters are such wonderfull miniatures because the were some of the few that didn't have those plastic arms!
My tiny space ork raiders are led by the powered/cyber freebooter too, while the plastic arm guys just don't fit with the gang. The freebooter Painboy is a good character too. The Kaptin probably goes for crazy money now.

tonight I'm going to browse my old ork books! Waaaargh!

[blackstone]

Super nice painting and photos!

[Jonas]

I agree.   These guys are definitely pretty silly all the same though.  There is a cat with a bionic eye wearing a tricorne for example      Still if someone cant see how inherently ridiculous the 40K universe is, then I probably dont want to play games with them anyway.

Of course things are allowed to be silly, but doesn't need to be full blown clown college 

Except if you are an Eldar Harlequin of course, but that is still serious buisness too....