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Offline Blue in vt

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Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« on: 15 November 2011, 07:06:19 PM »
howdy all!

So in my quest to create a cheap gaming table I have turned my attention to trees!  I managed to procure a set of Woodland Scenics tree armatures for very little money the other day and have a bag of their "undergrowth" to use for the foliage.  However...now I have the armatures in hand the bag recommends using a proprietary glue called Hob-E-tac?!  I don't know what that is...and no one near me carried Woodland Scenics products...so I'm looking for something to use in its stead.  What would you all suggest?

thanks

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Offline dodge

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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #1 on: 15 November 2011, 07:39:10 PM »
I have had experience of hob e tac and it is still tacky 12 months later,

I am not sure but I think PVA which would be a good bet or a blob of super glue, I haven't tried either yet but that was what I would do,

don't shout at me if goes a bit wrong though  ;)

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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #2 on: 15 November 2011, 08:08:03 PM »
There's a big difference between different PVA glues. If you've got the cheap watery kind, you're in for a mighty frustrating experience. It can be done though. Just make sure you spray the trees liberally with either a PVA solution or varnish from below once dry. It'll all be pretty fragile if you call 'em done as soon as the foliage is stuck to the branches.

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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #3 on: 15 November 2011, 09:32:43 PM »
Hey Blue, I found this really informative thread at another website which covers various alternative glues to Hob-E-Tac. Some really good suggestions, for exactly the purpose you need it for. They even mention the limitations of using Hob-E-Tac.

Here is the thread:

http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?11024-Looking-for-Hob-E-Tac-alternative
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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #4 on: 15 November 2011, 11:46:20 PM »
I have had experience of hob e tac and it is still tacky 12 months later,

I am not sure but I think PVA which would be a good bet or a blob of super glue, I haven't tried either yet but that was what I would do,

don't shout at me if goes a bit wrong though  ;)

My trees were glued with hob-e-tac in february or march 2009 and they're still tacky.
Hate the stuff. >:(
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Offline Onemanworkshop

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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #5 on: 15 November 2011, 11:54:48 PM »
Liquid rubber CONTACT Cement does the trick. Just coat the tips of the tree branches and press the foliage on to the glued branches, and let dry over night. I have used this method over 10 years now and it never fails.
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Offline Schogun

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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #6 on: 16 November 2011, 01:45:18 AM »
Aleene's Original Tacky Glue.

In the U.S., found at Michael's, Joann's and Hobby Lobby (and probably other craft stores).

Offline Blue in vt

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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #7 on: 16 November 2011, 02:09:24 AM »
 :) :) :)

thanks for all the great suggestions guys...I'll track a few of these products down and go from there.

Cheers,

Blue

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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #8 on: 16 November 2011, 12:24:32 PM »
Aleene's Original Tacky Glue.

In the U.S., found at Michael's, Joann's and Hobby Lobby (and probably other craft stores).

Yep. Good stuff and every modeller should have a bottle in the cupboard. Problem I have never come across a vendor in Europe who carries it.

The stuff comes on like Hob-E-Tac but dries like white glue which makes it ideal for foilage and static grass.

Offline Relic

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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #9 on: 16 November 2011, 12:40:16 PM »
what differs that particular tacky glue from others? Why is Aleenes better? I know a web-store here in Finland sells it. But I want to know how it's better than the ones sold in supermarket in the same kind of bottles and for same purposes :)

Offline Schogun

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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #10 on: 16 November 2011, 12:44:55 PM »
Can't say Aleene's is better. It's just the most prevalent brand here in the U.S.

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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #11 on: 16 November 2011, 12:51:45 PM »
what differs that particular tacky glue from others? Why is Aleenes better? I know a web-store here in Finland sells it. But I want to know how it's better than the ones sold in supermarket in the same kind of bottles and for same purposes :)

It's viscosity and adhesiveness . It is tacky in a which standard carpenters/white/Elmers glue aint. It has a similar formula (boiled horse hooves?) but with some distinct properties.

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Re: Alternative to Hob-E-Tac
« Reply #12 on: 16 November 2011, 12:53:12 PM »
Can't say Aleene's is better. It's just the most prevalent brand here in the U.S.

It is better for certain purposes. Generic white glue is runnier.

 

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