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Offline cromlechi

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 09:53:53 PM »
Do you think making a figure of a naked Iraqi being held on a dog leash might be seen as a little insensitive if not simple bad taste?

Offline Dave Knight

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 09:59:03 PM »
Not my cup of tea I am afraid :-[

Offline uti long smile

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 11:15:54 PM »
Good lord!
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Offline supervike

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 12:37:02 AM »
Art often imitates life.

37mm though....they'd tower over my other stuff.

Offline Cherno

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 12:41:52 AM »
That Lyndie England lookalike is certainly of debatable PCness, but I have yet to hear any complaints about 28mm Waffen SS troops by Victory Force etc., so let's not apply a double standard here. It's just a miniature and not a board-game version of Abu Ghraib.

There is no bad publicity ;)

Offline itchy

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 06:10:19 AM »
I am at work at the moment and for some reason ? both the pics on here and the web site are blocked no access ,but if the comment about the iraqi on a dog leash is definately out of order ,aand there is a bit of a difference between depicting a ss man and that. I think people might have the same reaction if some one did a ss man beating a naked death camp inmate . when I get home I will have a look and if I am wrong I will state so willingly but for the moment on what I have read I have made my opinion .

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 07:06:53 AM »
That Lyndie England lookalike is certainly of debatable PCness, but I have yet to hear any complaints about 28mm Waffen SS troops by Victory Force etc., so let's not apply a double standard here. It's just a miniature and not a board-game version of Abu Ghraib.

There is no bad publicity ;)

There is you know. I wouldn't touch this manufacturer with a barge pole. Fair to say I probably wouldn't have purchased them anyway, they appear quite crude sculpts but that little vignette is beyond the pale as far as I'm concerned. For the record I have no interest in Waffen SS figures either.
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Offline cromlechi

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2012, 08:08:03 AM »
That Lyndie England lookalike is certainly of debatable PCness, but I have yet to hear any complaints about 28mm Waffen SS troops by Victory Force etc., so let's not apply a double standard here. It's just a miniature and not a board-game version of Abu Ghraib.

There is no bad publicity ;)

Tell that to Michael Jackson.

Offline Cherno

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2012, 10:02:11 AM »
If I could, I would tell him that he is still one of the best selling artists of all time and that the media echo after his death was positive by far and large. Of course it's hard to say wether he would have had even more success if he hadn't engaged in certain behaviorisms :)

Offline Korwin Miniatures

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2012, 11:12:37 AM »
Why I sculpted Abu Ghraib model?
Every of us happily replay wars and have good fun. I want to remind that the source of our fun are wars which caused someone's else suffering. If that is making some of you feel uncomfortable, then reconsider your hobby.
In my gaming rules (KUDAR) defending your civilians is one of the ways to win the game (other way is to kill civilians of opponent). I didn't see to many wargaming rules on the market which have any role for civilians included.
So... like it or not. I see some thinks differently.

Offline A_Train

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2012, 12:29:57 PM »
I haven't been offended or upset by miniatures yet, and after viewing this page, I still haven't been.

But at 37 mm I have no use for them.

Offline Arlequín

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2012, 12:43:22 PM »
Yes, I agree that in some conflicts the role of civilians is integral, yet largely ignored. Representing the role of civilians in games is also difficult and can easily offend another individual's sense of morality by its depiction... people find the level they are personally most comfortable with.

'Taste' therefore is subjective and down to the individual, which in this case will of course be represented in sales, or lack of, for that figure.

The figure being discussed has not been posted on here and on that basis, I would suggest that, if anyone feels strongly about figures in this range, or indeed any other range, on the grounds of taste, that they address it directly by PM or e-mail, or simply by not buying the figure(s) in question.

Keep calm and carry on...  :)

Offline supervike

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2012, 06:57:02 PM »
Fair enough, so can we talk about the size??

What do your figs look like standing next to other minis (Hasslefree, GW, etc)

Offline Dave Knight

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Re: New modern figures
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2012, 07:36:34 PM »
I don't think that it is unreasonable to express a negative opinion on a miniature in open forum, or indeed to discuss the morality of wargaming.

 

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