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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.119 - Loyd Carrier finished
« Reply #1785 on: 09 February 2022, 10:28:23 AM »
Gorgeous, Richard.

I've always been a bit pussled by these vehicles, Brens and Carden Lloyd, it seems like there is a lot of vehicle for just a light machine gun, which really is quite portable in the first place as it was operated by just two men.

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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.119 - Loyd Carrier finished
« Reply #1786 on: 09 February 2022, 10:56:46 AM »
Really lovely…….great painting.   Hankering to start North Africa…..

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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.119 - Loyd Carrier finished
« Reply #1787 on: 09 February 2022, 11:22:34 AM »
The Rubicon Lloyd is a great little vehicle - beautifully painted and weathered here  ;D

Hammers - I don't think you want to get hung up on the Bren part of this thing. A battalion carrier platoon was used for all kinds of tasks including transporting ammo, men, and casualties. Weapons like 3" mortars and Vickers MMGs also routinely mounted, and those obviously were not as portable as the Bren. The Lloyd carrier was bigger and heavier than the Universal Carrier, often used in anti-tank platoons as a tow for 6 pounder gun. That's why the Rubicon kit comes with a few 6 pounder ammo boxes.

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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.119 - Loyd Carrier finished
« Reply #1788 on: 09 February 2022, 01:31:41 PM »
Looks fantastic!

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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.119 - Loyd Carrier finished
« Reply #1789 on: 09 February 2022, 04:54:46 PM »
Thanks all :)

Next up - ze Rubicon Models Kubelwagen, complete with desert tyres and MG34 machine gun mounting...

The vehicle sans crew looks a bit weird because the steering wheel is attached to the driver, not the dashboard!  ::)







The crew are a kitbash of Rubicon bodies with Perry heads and parts...











And, for the record, alongside the Perry resin Kubel...

Broadly compatible, although as you can see, understandably the detail on the precision-designed plastic kit is sharper, more accurate and better defined than on the hand sculpted resin model. And the vehicle definitely sits up a bit taller and squarer... The Perry model retains its charm and character though, and at tabletop distance, they'll fit together well enough.

(To be fair, I've probably also done a rather better job of painting the new one :))






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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.120 - Kubelwagen #2 finished!
« Reply #1790 on: 09 February 2022, 05:31:31 PM »
Delightful
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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.120 - Kubelwagen #2 finished!
« Reply #1791 on: 09 February 2022, 05:37:36 PM »
To be fair the kubelwagon is deceptively tricky to manually sculpt. I personally found the Jeep much easier to sculpt.
But must confess I do like the desert tyres on the Rubicon version.
Velour seats in the Rubicon one is a bit posh though. :D

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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.120 - Kubelwagen #2 finished!
« Reply #1792 on: 09 February 2022, 06:25:39 PM »
Beautifully done! I hope mine come out as well.
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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.120 - Kubelwagen #2 finished!
« Reply #1793 on: 09 February 2022, 07:33:22 PM »
Superb brushwork. :-*
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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.120 - Kubelwagen #2 finished!
« Reply #1794 on: 09 February 2022, 10:00:14 PM »
Very nice :-*
I’ve always thought of Kubelwagens as small vehicles,until I actually stood next to one,surprisingly large!
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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.120 - Kubelwagen #2 finished!
« Reply #1795 on: 10 February 2022, 08:51:30 AM »
Once again, very good job on this KW !  :-*
Definitely, I love the Rubicon models...
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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.119 - Loyd Carrier finished
« Reply #1796 on: 10 February 2022, 09:10:15 AM »
The Rubicon Lloyd is a great little vehicle - beautifully painted and weathered here  ;D

Hammers - I don't think you want to get hung up on the Bren part of this thing. A battalion carrier platoon was used for all kinds of tasks including transporting ammo, men, and casualties. Weapons like 3" mortars and Vickers MMGs also routinely mounted, and those obviously were not as portable as the Bren. The Lloyd carrier was bigger and heavier than the Universal Carrier, often used in anti-tank platoons as a tow for 6 pounder gun. That's why the Rubicon kit comes with a few 6 pounder ammo boxes.

EC

The standard load for the Universal Carrier, which is what most of us think of when we use the name 'Bren Carrier', included also a Boys' ATR, with a crew of 3. By 1943 a Carrier section included 3 Bren guns, a PIAT, a 2" mortar and usually a radio set, along with personal weapons for the 10 men. As EC says, they could carry a lot of other stuff too. The Osprey on the UC (& precursors) covers the design and development quite well.

The Loyd had a different role, being used for 6 pounder ATGs, 4.2" mortars, and as an ambulance. It wasn't armoured and was basically a tracked light truck.

Nice Kubi!
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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.120 - Kubelwagen #2 finished!
« Reply #1797 on: 10 February 2022, 09:39:41 AM »
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The vehicle sans crew looks a bit weird because the steering wheel is attached to the driver, not the dashboard!  ::)
I prefer that to having to get the driver's hands
to stay on the steering wheel. I have had quite
a few vehicles where the driver would have failed
their driving test with hands floating over the
steering wheel. lol

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I’ve always thought of Kubelwagens as small vehicles,until I actually stood next to one,surprisingly large!

I had a similar experience with the Bren/Universal Carrier.
Brought up with the Airfix model, which was known
to skid across the table if someone sneezed.
BIG shock to stand next to one at Bovington
tank museum.  lol

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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.120 - Kubelwagen #2 finished!
« Reply #1798 on: 10 February 2022, 10:30:10 AM »
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The Loyd had a different role, being used for 6 pounder ATGs, 4.2" mortars, and as an ambulance. It wasn't armoured and was basically a tracked light truck.

will confess Etranger that I didn't know the Lloyd was unarmoured. Thanks.

Lovely Kubel Captain - I also switched out Perry heads, arms, and guns on my Rubicon jeeps
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Re: Captain Blood's Western Desert: P.120 - Kubelwagen #2 finished!
« Reply #1799 on: 10 February 2022, 12:36:45 PM »
Lovely stuff Captain - that Kubel is a little beauty.

Just to chime in on the Lloyd Carrier topic, early Lloyds were originally intended as a personell carrier and still filled the role occaisionally later in the war.
The 6pdr was served by two versions, a gun tow and an ammunition carrier. You can spot the ammo carrier because it had extra armoured plates installed on either side which are quite prominent. The earlier version that towed the 2pdr had the same I think.
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