The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread

[Ray Rivers]

Yep... the transition to Sigmarines is now complete!

[Redmao]

I really like the new size. Now I'll be able to pit some Space marines against my Imperial Assault Storm troopers 

[Predatorpt]

Here's the price list for the UK (according to Warseer):

[The Voivod]

So.....

How free are these rules going to be now?

I mean I'm not complainling that they're going to sell hard-copies. I might even be looking into them over time.
But I'm not really feeling like having to buy a rulebook (because that contains all of th rules) and then 4 index books (I have four armies: Blood angels, Imperial guard, Craftworld Eldar en Orks. None of those share an index book).

That would be 95 pounds, just for the books....

How much of those indexes are going to be onine? Did I miss something?

[cyagen]

I like the fact that the SM are now "true scales".

However, my guess is that they are not going to replace all SM with them. I'm willing to bet that they are only going to be available to chapters on the right side of the rift.

But their stats are so good that people are going to buy them anyway.

[Andrew May]

I'm pretty sure that "eventually" these will replace the entire space marine range. I totally see why they're doing it but I'm not sure if I like it personally. The Primaris look pretty good all in all, more "action/sci fi" with the odd gothic touch but I can't see them mixing well with old armies. It's a bit incongruous to be having marines that are taller than terminators, and if they're getting their own tanks etc then I think the change over is inevitable.

As for the chaos models, I'm not hugely enamoured with their presentation in the promo shots but I look forward to seeing what customers do with them, the converters will have a field day!

[Daeothar]

... the converters will have a field day!

I'm not sure about that; they're not multipart like standard Space Marines I think, but rather one, two or three part sculpts that are a right pain to convert well.

At least, if the Dark Vengeance Chaos Space Marines and cultists were anything to go by. I have those, and they look great, but conversion work on them is very involved indeed and requires at least a moderate level of skill...

[Col. Aubrey Bagshot]

I read somewhere, cant remember where, that they are ALL multipart plastics, like the 30K box sets....?

[Major_Gilbear]

I read somewhere, cant remember where, that they are ALL multipart plastics, like the 30K box sets....?

Whilst the basic Deathguard and NuMarines may be "full" multipart kits, I'd imagine that the characters are fixed-pose on mini-sprues, and that the Blight Drone and Cultists are either snap-fit or low part-count like the HH Contemptor.

Doing this is actually a great way for GW to recover the initial costs of all those new kits, as even with a subsidised Starter Box price, they will sell vast numbers of the kits easily. They did this back in 3E to launch the new SM and DE kits as well, and the 3E plastic Marines therefore became the default Marine model for almost everyone overnight.

[Vanvlak]

The classic how-do-10-space-marines-fit-in-a-Rhino research question just got a tiny bit more complicated.

[Daeothar]

The classic how-do-10-space-marines-fit-in-a-Rhino research question just got a tiny bit more complicated.

 

Horizontal stacking might be inevitable now! 

[Major_Gilbear]

...Or we might finally see a suitably-scaled NuRhino? 

[Daeothar]

Well, considering the size difference between the original Rhino and the current one, there certainly is precedent... 

[Andrew May]

I thought they'd already said that new tanks are planned. I'm sure that nu-marines won't fit in a rhino, you'll need to buy the brand new super rhino to transport them. 

I'm still sure the hardcore converters will go nuts, the Iron Sleet mob et al are surely champing at the bit!

[Elbows]

They're definitely setting up to replace the Space Marine line over the next 5-10 years.  All of their vehicles are old enough to warrant replacement, and they've stated on their page that current Space Marines would be eligible for the Primaris update.  I'm pretty confident this will mean that all new Space Marine models and characters will likely be of the Primaris version, until the old ones simply fade away.

I think new characters or re-done characters for the Space Marines will suddenly all have opted for the Primaris conversion, etc.

We shall see.  Personally I think aesthetically they look fine, but scale-wise they look poor.  We've had some lopsided scaling issues before but the appearance will now be that people are playing at two totally different scales.  It just looks silly on the table top.

The scale apparently has gone way up with the plague marines too - all the more reason not to get them.