Reaper Kickstarter... Number 2

[GnomesofZurich]

I backed the first one and haven't had a chance to paint any of it yet. The figures I've seen so far haven't impressed me (I have enough fantasy figures from kickstarter 1). The shipping is the big deal breaker on this one - I live in Canada's Arctic, so I imagine it would be an arm and a leg.

[Calimero]

I asked myself what the shipping cost for figures would be like if I lived that far North the first time I saw your location...

[FramFramson]

To the best of my knowledge, they have no plans to stop metal production or do a full conversion to plastic.

And thank god for that...

[Relic]

The plastic is too soft in my opinion.. :/

[beefcake]

It's good for big monsters though.

[phreedh]

With the costs involved being completely variable, I'll probably pass on this one. Last Kickstarter had a fix shipping cost and also a fix declared value on the customs details.

For each model added to the basic pledge, there's an increase in postage cost. Increased postage also means increased customs (as the shipping cost is taxed).

For each option I buy into, there's an increase in customs fees as well.

If I spent say $200 on the kickstarter, shipping might very well be another $50. That's $250 I'm being stung for in customs, as opposed to $125 last time. It would mean I'd pay about $100 in customs fees. 

[Centaur_Seducer]

I'm with you on this. I do however want a Kraken The other stuff seems a bit uinteresting at the moment.

[Sir Barnaby Hammond-Rye]

I guess the question will be how much of a discount you are getting (and can you sell the figures you don't want off to cover some of the costs.)

IIRC the retail for each bones figure is higher than the KS price. This may be the cheapest way for you to get them, period.

[Braz]

Kudos for Reaper regarding the shipping costs they absorbed when mailing the last Kickstarter. It will help once I know the shipping costs (even if approximate) but so far the selection of figures has left me rather blah. Only about a dozen figs interest me so far so I will likely just order them when available in the store and/or in metal and get free shipping.  Will keep an eye on it to see where it goes.

[kalamadea]

Yeah, last KS the international shipping cost $330k and they only charged international backers $111k. International backers were only 25% of the total backers but 70% of the shipping costs were international. A lot of that was caused by USPS literally doubling international shipping costs between the finish of the KS and the time it shipped, but thats still a BIG difference reaper had to absorb so I can't fault Reaper one single bit for doing shipping the way they are this time around. The same box that costs $75 to ship to UK can be sent to the other side of the country for $8 with full tracking and confirmation and no customs forms and fees to sort out.

Reaper posted the breakdown of how the first KS went here


I backed for wave 1 shipping almost as soon as it went live, but if I wasn't US then I'd almost certainly have held off until I had a better idea of costs and possibly wouldn't back it at all. I understand the disappointment, and I certainly get that it really turns a fantastic deal into only a good deal (and therefore a not-good-enough-for-me deal), but you can't fault Reaper (a business) for doing business like a business. Of the $3.4 million the first KS made, only $54k was actual profit.

[Centaur_Seducer]

While one might argue that 54k is a crappy profit, it's still in the light of setting up a whole new production line and being able to write it off with a smile

[beefcake]

The future profits they will make off that stuff is where they will make loads of cash. That is what kickstarter is about though isn't it, kick starting something so it can be used in the future rather than a profit making scheme.

[thebinmann]

While one might argue that 54k is a crappy profit, it's still in the light of setting up a whole new production line and being able to write it off with a smile

QUITE SO!

[maxxon]

I'm a bit hesitant...

I just got my BONES from the first batch two weeks ago finally. I haven't had the time to paint any of them yet, but my first impression isn't too hot:

- basically EVERY spear and staff and a good portion of the swords, including some giant-sized ones, is bent and I have no clue how to fix them. Cut them off and get decent metal or resin weapons from somewhere?
- some of the pre-assembled ones (e.g. eye tyrant) have huge gaps where the parts meet
- detail on the smaller minis seems a bit mushy...

[Braxandur]

- basically EVERY spear and staff and a good portion of the swords, including some giant-sized ones, is bent and I have no clue how to fix them. Cut them off and get decent metal or resin weapons from somewhere?

Throw the models for about 5-15 minutes in boiling water. Remove and straighten parts if neccessary, throw in icecold water for 5 minuts to fix the position. Done!

I'm still interested in this next set, but am afraid that shipping can quite easily go up  to around $70. It would be great if Reaper could just bulk ship packages out to a european location such as sedition wars did with battlefoam and so circumvent the high P&P. The postage rates are only getting more crazy all the time, while I don't mind waiting a month or two more for my package. Especially when it's done via kickstarter.