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Offline Doomsdave

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #300 on: 15 November 2013, 03:03:08 AM »
I'm in for the BotB level.  I am very happy that the retro troops are in (I just wish that I could sub them for all the modern troops in the set.  I loved the cards when I was younger.  I would expund on my position but Scurv is doing a fine job channeling my id. 
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Offline Arlequín

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #301 on: 15 November 2013, 09:55:56 AM »
I do have to agree entirely that the 'Modern' theme does look entirely cosmetic... i.e. it's just the figures that make it so. Otherwise it does seem to reflect the values and tropes of 1960's media representations, rather than those of the present.

The ideas of 'united purpose' in the face of an external threat to freedom and liberty you could lift straight from one of Kennedy's speeches. Morality is black and white and there is no inter-human conflict, no human collaboration with the enemy, or any of the other elements we would expect to see represented in a modern storyline.

The only common thread between the two is the concept of there being a technology gap between 'us' and 'them', which is a constant theme throughout sci-fi, on the basis that 'they' can travel from one planet to another, while 'we' can't.

Like Scurv, I wouldn't want to see any of these modern elements introduced, I quite like the old timee aspects for MA (to me it is what makes MA what it is), as they were the ones I saw depicted on TV and film back in the day. Gritty realism and 'modern' concerns I can get from something else.

Pretty much right through the KS, my intention was to swap out the modern elements for 'the originals', from what I saw of the rules, this was (and is) apparently an easy fix... short of actually finding the figures. Okay one or two of the character figures are no-go's, but they can be replaced... again it's a cosmetic change, which will apparently require no rule or scenario changes.

Seriously... what aspects of the game make it 'Modern', other than the figures that will be supplied with it?

I didn't back the kickstarter. I do not have the funds to be able to do so at the moment if I had the funds I would have done so. If you mean would I have been as likely to back it (funds willing) if it was set in the 60's then yes I would have.
 

That's fine, I just wanted to see if the 'setting' made a difference.  :) 

When did the original cards come out? 1960's/70's? I was born in the '80's and have zero interest in '60's us troopers.


I think this was the case with a lot of people backing the project and something those of us beating the retro drum should be appreciating. I sincerely doubt the KS would have been as successful if it had been based on the original cards.

Just because I would like retro, doesn't mean everyone would, or indeed that I am a vocal part of some silent majority that demands retro. Had the 'franchise' been as well known globally as 'War of the Worlds' for example, then perhaps things probably would have been different (at least judging by the KS based on that). As it is, outside of the US (and indeed, somewhat within it too) most people's experience of MA is through the movie. I lost count of the times I saw Alvin and others post "It's not based on the movie".

I wasn't aware of the cards myself until I came across them while researching 50's sci-fi, despite being an avid fan of the movie. I had previously thought the retro-styling of that was an homage to War of the Worlds and the other 50's classics. 

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #302 on: 15 November 2013, 03:23:35 PM »
Just how specifically is this modern version a different game to one with the exact same components except ALL the human stuff had a retro look.
In other words if I set up the game with 50's figs for all the human stuff would it feel right or are there things in there that would make me think no these figs just dont fit the feel of the rules?

I'm not quite sure what you're asking me, but i'm not a gamer myself.  What we are going for, however, is a timeless style, with a concerted effort to achieve a pulpy, retro feel, even if the setting is the modern day. I do understand the appeal of MA lies in the pulp, the classic sci-fi ideals, and that's what we're aiming to recapture-- just set in the present.  Perhaps that makes it even more unique.

Whatever the case, I implore you to check out our new card set (even if just online) and you'll see for yourself. 

Offline Too Bo Coo

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #303 on: 15 November 2013, 04:17:15 PM »
I'm just gobsmacked at all of the thought and effort that all of you guys on this thread have for this project!  I think for more good than ill, there is a LOT of buzz!

It's still a 'bridge too far' project for me, as i have just way too many to juggle, but I wish you all good luck and happy gaming!
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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #304 on: 15 November 2013, 11:02:27 PM »
You do mad max minis?

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #305 on: 15 November 2013, 11:15:42 PM »
lol no they are loosely based upon salute of the jugger. 28mm PA guys and gals with no weapons. Designed as future sports players. (see what I mean Alvin!)

And they look great painted by a 10 year old girl:



And her old and half retarded (according to her) father:



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Offline Doomsdave

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #306 on: 16 November 2013, 03:10:36 AM »
Scurv should really hang out a shingle for Wargamer Therapy/Headshrinking.  I believe he just described my neurosis in painful detail. 

Offline Doomsdave

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #307 on: 16 November 2013, 03:59:08 AM »
what about the agony of what is and is not cannon dave.


Indeed; I thinnk that one is actually in the Diagnostic and Statistics Manual.  The rage fueled shouting matches surrounding 40K cannon on Dakka are enough to make one fear for humanity.

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #308 on: 16 November 2013, 05:04:27 AM »
what about the agony of what is and is not cannon dave.

Learning to spell "canon" would be a GREAT start . . . . .  ;)  lol

a "cannon" is a mounted gun for firing heavy projectiles  ;D



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Offline Doomsdave

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #309 on: 16 November 2013, 07:37:55 AM »
Learning to spell "canon" would be a GREAT start . . . . .  ;)  lol

a "cannon" is a mounted gun for firing heavy projectiles  ;D



The tone of disagreements at times suggests the alternate spelling is accurate.

Offline Van-Helsing

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #310 on: 16 November 2013, 08:00:35 AM »
The tone of disagreements at times suggests the alternate spelling is accurate.

LoL - Good Point!

Offline Arlequín

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #311 on: 16 November 2013, 10:07:03 AM »
Your abrupt change of tack can only mean that while you were sleeping they put a pod under your bed.  :D 

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #312 on: 16 November 2013, 10:25:33 AM »
You guys kill me. I write what I thought was one of my better posts and I get nothing but a spelling lesson in return.

Thats because I rarely debate with people I truly disagree with  ;)

Offline Arlequín

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #313 on: 16 November 2013, 11:50:03 AM »
Fortunately, the comic compendiums are somewhat more available in the UK, so reading them will be somewhat less problematic for me. You're preaching to the converted though, as it became apparent during the KS that there is a great deal of depth to the modern storyline, that is absent from the original cards. Alvin's boundless enthusiasm for the MA 'new era' is also pretty infectious too!

I will admit that my preference for 'retro' is purely aesthetic; I like the look of it, pure and simple. My plan was to literally just swap out the modern soldiers for more suitable-looking retro ones, I hadn't planned on rule changes, or anything else, as there didn't seem to be any reason or point to that.

I'm pretty convinced that MA will be a cool and fun game as it comes, I'm just pleased that I will get the opportunity with the retro soldiers to bend it towards what I want it to look like. Will I play it in its modern setting? Sure, I have no reason not to, but as a wargaming 'project' I'm stuck back in 1962.

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Re: Mantic Mars Attacks! KS Funded in 13 minutes!
« Reply #314 on: 16 November 2013, 11:56:01 AM »
For the most part the Comics are excellent, and well worth the search - some of the crossovers are "patchy" at best - and purely "gag factor" reads

 

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